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      Reid Cooper
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      Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

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        JaredBusch @Reid Cooper
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        @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

        Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

        One of them does CAD, the rest will barely be taxed day to day. My recommendation was not to upgrade.

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          JaredBusch
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          So this is what I am sending off to my preferred VAR.

          Desktops: Quantity 9
          Option A:
          HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
          Windows 10 Pro
          Intel Core i5 7600
          16GB RAM
          256 GB SSD
          Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
          No optical drive
          HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

          Option B:
          HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
          Windows 10 Pro
          Intel Core i7 7700
          16GB RAM
          256 GB SSD
          Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
          No optical drive
          HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

          For the memory in both of these desktop options, if it is more cost effective to get 8GB and an additional 8GB separate, please quote it as such.

          Laptop: Quantity 1
          Make it the same as the one just ordered for IPMA

          Monitors: Quantity 13
          Option A:
          HP V273a

          Option B:
          HP 27sv

          Similar model 27” monitors are acceptable. These were pulled from HP’s website.
          Display port to HDMI needed per monitor as the EliteDesk has 2 Display Ports and both of these monitors have HDMI

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            wrx7m
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            Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.

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              scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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              @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

              Is 16GB of RAM necessary for the day-to-day people? Seems like overkill.

              Generally the alternative is 8GB, which can easily be too little.

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                wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller I have been giving out 8 for several years now. Maybe it is time to check my users' utilization. I am sure that some people could benefit from more but I would be surprised if most were above 60%.

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  I do okay on 8GB, but I only run two browsers, no apps, and do it on Linux.

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                    wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller I have 32GB on Windows 8.1 (will be getting a new system soon with 10) and I can get to over 55% with heavy browser usage. I use the hell out of this rig.

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                      scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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                      @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

                      @scottalanmiller I have 32GB on Windows 8.1 (will be getting a new system soon with 10) and I can get to over 55% with heavy browser usage. I use the hell out of this rig.

                      If I'm on windows, I need over 8GB. On Linux, 8GB does just fine.

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                        dbeato @JaredBusch
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                        @jaredbusch I am assuming the CAD computer is getting a decent video card correct?

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                          jmoore @Reid Cooper
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                          @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

                          Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

                          I totally agree. Bottlenecks are hardly ever the cpu, they are almost always disk and memory. I have been going round and round with my management on this. They buy I7's but a mix of 5400/7200 hard drives. The i5 would be just fine for general use.

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                            jmoore @wrx7m
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                            @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

                            @scottalanmiller I have been giving out 8 for several years now. Maybe it is time to check my users' utilization. I am sure that some people could benefit from more but I would be surprised if most were above 60%.

                            8gb memory has been just fine for us also as i do check people every once in a while. Someone else could have different needs than my community college though

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                              Dashrender
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                              I still standardize on 8 GB. But at our next upgrade I'll take a look to see if 16 is really needed.

                              I buy display port monitors now for display port machines.... love the single cable, no convertors.

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                                jmoore @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in Intel CPU question:

                                I still standardize on 8 GB. But at our next upgrade I'll take a look to see if 16 is really needed.

                                I buy display port monitors now for display port machines.... love the single cable, no convertors.

                                yeah I do the same. been great

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                                  Reid Cooper
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                                  8GB, i5, SSD... tends to do the trick.

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                                    jmoore @JaredBusch
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                                    @jaredbusch said in Intel CPU question:

                                    So this is what I am sending off to my preferred VAR.

                                    Desktops: Quantity 9
                                    Option A:
                                    HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
                                    Windows 10 Pro
                                    Intel Core i5 7600
                                    16GB RAM
                                    256 GB SSD
                                    Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
                                    No optical drive
                                    HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

                                    Option B:
                                    HP EliteDesk 800 G3 Tower
                                    Windows 10 Pro
                                    Intel Core i7 7700
                                    16GB RAM
                                    256 GB SSD
                                    Intel 8265 802.11 ac with Bluetooth 4.2
                                    No optical drive
                                    HP Wireless Business Slim Keyboard and Mouse

                                    For the memory in both of these desktop options, if it is more cost effective to get 8GB and an additional 8GB separate, please quote it as such.

                                    Laptop: Quantity 1
                                    Make it the same as the one just ordered for IPMA

                                    Monitors: Quantity 13
                                    Option A:
                                    HP V273a

                                    Option B:
                                    HP 27sv

                                    Similar model 27” monitors are acceptable. These were pulled from HP’s website.
                                    Display port to HDMI needed per monitor as the EliteDesk has 2 Display Ports and both of these monitors have HDMI

                                    I think that is a great lineup. It might be a little ram heavy depending on the users but at same time its future proofing some. Looks good

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                                      wrx7m @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Intel CPU question:

                                      I still standardize on 8 GB. But at our next upgrade I'll take a look to see if 16 is really needed.

                                      I buy display port monitors now for display port machines.... love the single cable, no convertors.

                                      You can get dp to hdmi cables. I was using adapters from monoprice but had several cause intermittent issues so I decided to do the single cable solution and it seems to be much better so far.

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                                        wrx7m
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                                        @jmoore said in Intel CPU question:

                                        @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

                                        Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

                                        I totally agree. Bottlenecks are hardly ever the cpu, they are almost always disk and memory. I have been going round and round with my management on this. They buy I7's but a mix of 5400/7200 hard drives. The i5 would be just fine for general use.

                                        I have been buying SSDs, for users, exclusively, for about 6 months and it is by far the most noticeable improvement. Period.

                                        I have personally been using SSDs for several years after the amazement of the massive performance increase. Nothing has improved performance so dramatically in the past 15+ years like SSDs.

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                                          Reid Cooper @wrx7m
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                                          @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

                                          @jmoore said in Intel CPU question:

                                          @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

                                          Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

                                          I totally agree. Bottlenecks are hardly ever the cpu, they are almost always disk and memory. I have been going round and round with my management on this. They buy I7's but a mix of 5400/7200 hard drives. The i5 would be just fine for general use.

                                          I have been buying SSDs, for users, exclusively, for about 6 months and it is by far the most noticeable improvement. Period.

                                          It's the one big leap we've had in the past fifteen years.

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                                            jmoore @wrx7m
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                                            @wrx7m said in Intel CPU question:

                                            @jmoore said in Intel CPU question:

                                            @reid-cooper said in Intel CPU question:

                                            Even an i5 is typically overkill today. What kind of workloads will these run?

                                            I totally agree. Bottlenecks are hardly ever the cpu, they are almost always disk and memory. I have been going round and round with my management on this. They buy I7's but a mix of 5400/7200 hard drives. The i5 would be just fine for general use.

                                            I have been buying SSDs, for users, exclusively, for about 6 months and it is by far the most noticeable improvement. Period.

                                            I have personally been using SSDs for several years after the amazement of the massive performance increase. Nothing has improved performance so dramatically in the past 15+ years like SSDs.

                                            Yep your absolutely right

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