Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM
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@storageninja said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@r3dpand4 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
not if you read SW, you'd think no SMB knows to patch and those that do can never get downtime for them.
That's because they don't want to work nights or weekends.
If only there was a way to schedule updates to run outside of business hours.....
When you have to manufacture in Asia, and trucks back up if they can't print labels at 3AM US time you stop having "outside of business hours". An increasing amount of (even Small business's) don't have clear gaps, and you need someone to be ready to "fix" things if that patching fails, or brings something down.
You can have monitoring systems that will trigger a TAS to page the on-call, but if that fails there is nothing worse than waking up at 7AM and discovering the entire office is dead in the water. Follow the sun operations are bleeding into more and more companies.
Ya this is why that stuff should be automated as much as possible. If something fails during a patch, have it nuke it and bring another one up. Obviously someone still needs to be ready but let the machines do what they were built to do.
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@storageninja said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@r3dpand4 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
not if you read SW, you'd think no SMB knows to patch and those that do can never get downtime for them.
That's because they don't want to work nights or weekends.
If only there was a way to schedule updates to run outside of business hours.....
When you have to manufacture in Asia, and trucks back up if they can't print labels at 3AM US time you stop having "outside of business hours". An increasing amount of (even Small business's) don't have clear gaps, and you need someone to be ready to "fix" things if that patching fails, or brings something down.
This is where everyone would point out that I was out of touch with reality in Scott world or something. In the real world, 99%+ of SMBs don't actually operate any specific workload 24x7. Or not critically 24x7. Patching has downtime of seconds, typically, and in case of a disaster requiring a rollback to a previous snap from just before... then a few minutes.
There are exceptions, of course, and those places need all kinds of HA. But outside of that, even enterprises almost never have non-stop workloads. Those that do, they are highly isolated, one or two out of thousands.
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@storageninja said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
You can have monitoring systems that will trigger a TAS to page the on-call, but if that fails there is nothing worse than waking up at 7AM and discovering the entire office is dead in the water. Follow the sun operations are bleeding into more and more companies.
Or, you know, have competent, dedicated IT that work appropriate hours when their work needs to be done. That's how the enterprise does it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Patching has downtime of seconds, typically, and in case of a disaster requiring a rollback to a previous snap from just before... then a few minutes.
Mine takes about a minute for both DNS servers (nightly and with a reboot). Others happen at other times during the night.
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@stacksofplates said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@matteo-nunziati said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@storageninja said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
If Hyper-V was Windows, it wouldn't need Windows in the Dom0. It's specifically that it isn't that that is required.
Now I'm lost - Hyper-V still has a Dom0 even when installed as pure Hyper-V?
You never question why for a Hyper-V Core required so much damn install space? The Management VM (DOM0) just runs headless.
TBH if you look at really small partitions maybe Hyper-V requires one of the biggest (but not sure about KVM), anyway my hyper-v install is around 26GB. not a big deal .
Reinstalled in Feb, so there have been some extras added. Plus it was installed with the hypervisor role from the ISO, not minimal and added KVM. So there are a few extras that aren't needed like gluster client, openscap, etc.
But OpenSCAP is helpful on the host because you can scan your VMs directly from the host without the software being in the VM.
With 26gb I mean the partition. Really don't know how much of actual usage. Basically as @Tim_G says I don't care about <30 gb.
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(Can you even run Hyper-V in a supported, stateless PXE config?)
I think no microsoft product supports pxe. Maybe I'm wrong...
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(I know some Nutanix guys tried it but kept burning out SATA DOMs).
Sata dom? Who the f*** still uses them? Even when I was a c++ coder in automation industry we were phasing out them 3 years ago! Just mainteinance of production stuff.
Btw I see your point. For these applications
MS releases Windows embedded compact only
