Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM
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@brrabill said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Guess it's time to get that old copy of Hyper-V dusted off...
Or move to KVM. Duh.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
XenServer wasn't as easy for me as Xen.
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@brrabill said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Guess it's time to get that old copy of Hyper-V dusted off...
Why would this be your jump? Why now would you go from open source to closed source?
At the time you were evaluating XS, you were using Hyper-V and while it worked, it lacked a lot of what you needed.
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@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
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@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yep, just SSH.
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@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
KVM is Linux virtualization, Xen is not.
What is Xen then?
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@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
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I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.
That and I really want a SPOG like XO.
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@dustinb3403 said
At the time you were evaluating XS, you were using Hyper-V and while it worked, it lacked a lot of what you needed.
Was evaluating hypervisors and decided to give XS a try over Hyper-V.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
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@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.
That and I really want a SPOG like XO.
WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.
That and I really want a SPOG like XO.
WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.
But how is it setup, as a VM like XO, is it built into Fedora distro's when you install it with the ISO?
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@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dustinb3403 said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
I would like to give KVM a better try, but I haven't had the time to dig into it.
That and I really want a SPOG like XO.
WebVirtMgr can handle multiple servers and such.
But how is it setup, as a VM like XO, is it built into Fedora distro's when you install it with the ISO?
Yeah, you can run it as it's own VM, or you can install it directly on the KVM server. (Mine is directly on the KVM server at the moment).
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@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yes. However, SSH and such is restricted to my home IP and my ZT network.
Edit: Obviously, I have iptables rules allowing things like NextCloud to function.
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@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dashrender said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@scottalanmiller said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
@dafyre said in Amazon AWS Leaving Xen for KVM:
Having used both Xen and KVM, I gotta say that I find KVM to be much easier to work with.
I've found them both really easy
XenServer was easy, but just didn't mesh well with how I wanted it to work. KVM was a bit easier to get set up in my remote environment.
How so?
In my hosted lab, it wanted to take over my only public IP address. XAPI took over ports 80 and 443, so I couldn't run a web server or anything on those ports. I never was able to figure out how to change it -- I even asked here a time or two.
KVM went right in and gave me zero hassle.
Interesting.. What ports does KVM use for management? just typical SSH?
Yepp.
Is there no web management for it then?
Sure, there are options, but they can be run as VMs or on ports other than 80 or 443 (WebVirtMgr, or virt-manager on another Linux box).
No firewall?
Sadly, nothing other than IPTables.
You had your platform server attached directly to the Internet?
Yeah, he mentioned that earlier. Sounds like he basically installed XS into a vultr like session.
