Three Word Address
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
All the people have to have is a dumb phone and be able to call for help should something happen.
But if you have a cell phone, they know where you are already. So what did that solve?
They know within a general proximity (something like 300 meters) that's a large area to search for someone when you're in a gutter city.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Only the person who needs help has to have is the ability to read (their language) and a dumb phone.
Dumb phones aren't a thing. If that's the requirement, again, point made.
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@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
The problem I see is when the resident is away from the house, how will they remember those coordinates?
What's the real world use case for needing to share your home coordinates when you are not at home and don't have any digital devices? I never said it could never happen, what I said was it was so niche as to be useless. Partially because it depends on everyone involved having set up the three word system ahead of time and one of the parties being digital and another not, but having done digital work to get to that point.
a person who does not own a phone who goes shopping and something will be delivered. But maybe that's not a real thing in those places.
Right, the idea that you live in a shanty but are getting Amazon deliveries is absurd. And that you could place online orders, but can't get your GPS coordinates? The degree of absurdity needed to make the system appear to have some value is extreme.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
Have you watched the video? If so, and you feel there is value to the system, explain what it is.
I already have watched the video, the value is for places like gutty cities in Brazil etc.
Not for highly developed parts of the world.
What value does it have then? Why not just use GPS? I'm not "hating" on it... just seems like a solution looking for a problem that was already solved by a better more reliable way.
The problem is people have an incredibly hard time remembering numbers. Phones and GPS is great and all, if you have a device that is able to pull / share that information with the person you're in need or / talking too.
No, that's not a problem. People don't need to remember anything. That's the whole point, to use this system you need to be digital and the need for remembering addresses doesn't exist.
No the point is to not rely on digital once every 3 meters is marked.
You're clearly missing it the forest for the trees.
Oh really. So if that's so, tell me this use case. You seem to have one you are keeping secret. Fill me in.
Use case:
I live in a brazil gutter city, there are no formal addresses in place by the government and the nearest street is a quarter mile away from me.
I have a dumb phone and can call for help if fall and get hurt, since there is no official address system, I'm going to suffer.
Instead all I have to do is know the 3 word address nearest me (literally read the wall) in the local language and tell the help where I am.
That person / entity needs to be digital to find the person who needs the help.
Only the person who needs help has to have is the ability to read (their language) and a dumb phone.
you have a phone - the phone either has GPS or can use the cell towers to get close to find you. no 3 word location needed.
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@coliver said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
Dumb phones
Even dumb phones have accurate GPS.
Exactly. Whether land lines or the cheapest cell phones. Only thing that doesn't is VoIP, but if you have VoIP... you probably have GPS.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Only the person who needs help has to have is the ability to read (their language) and a dumb phone.
Dumb phones aren't a thing. If that's the requirement, again, point made.
A phone without internet (aka the dumb phone) only able to make calls or send / receive SMS.
There is no point made.
Your point is everyone already has a phone, so just pull the GPS from that when someone is calling. Prove how that is useful?
300 meters, pull my location.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
Only the person who needs help has to have is the ability to read (their language) and a dumb phone.
Dumb phones aren't a thing. If that's the requirement, again, point made.
A phone without internet (aka the dumb phone) only able to make calls or send / receive SMS.
There is no point made.
Your point is everyone already has a phone, so just pull the GPS from that when someone is calling. Prove how that is useful?
300 meters, pull my location.
Those phones still have GPS and if not, can still use the cell towers to find you.
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@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
you have a phone - the phone either has GPS or can use the cell towers to get close to find you. no 3 word location needed.
And it is way faster and more accurate. And can't be so easily tampered with. The three word system, because it is gibberish, is highly dangerous. Anyone changing a sign can't be identified because you can't tell when the words are wrong, unlike house numbers or GPS that increment in logical ways. And getting it wrong gets it very, very wrong. The margin of error is zero.
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When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
So this is for places that literally have no address.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
So this is for places that literally have no address.
We've covered that. You know this isn't logical. Why do you keep mentioning addresses after we've shown that it makes no sense in that scenario.
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@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.
BAHAHAH you're insane.
You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
So this is for places that literally have no address.
nope, either the land line you have is registered, or your cell phone gives the cops your GPS info.
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When you call the cops (that's a 911 call) from a landline, they have your address before they even pick up the phone. When you call from a cell phone, they have your GPS coordinates in seconds. In no case do you need to give the cops your address. People do to verify that the GPS info is correct or just out of habit, but it is completely unnecessary. Pick up the phone, dial 911, let them pick up, then hang up. Trust me, the cops will show up.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.
BAHAHAH you're insane.
You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.
In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.
BAHAHAH you're insane.
You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.
Then you send your GPS coordinated by SMS. That's how people communicate in those parts of the world. How do you not understand that if you have a phone, you have GPS coordinates and the ability to send them.
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@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.
BAHAHAH you're insane.
You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.
In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.
More critical for the police to have GPS. As a person who lives there, you simply need to know YOUR location.
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@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.
BAHAHAH you're insane.
You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.
In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.
How? The the three words just get converted to GPS. So if GPS isn't the answer, 3 words doesn't even work.
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@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@dashrender said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
@scottalanmiller said in Three Word Address:
@dustinb3403 said in Three Word Address:
When you call the cops you give them the address you're at right?
Not in the real world, no. That's a television thing.
BAHAHAH you're insane.
You absolutely give them your address. Just because the police in developed areas can quickly pull your location doesn't mean that they are equipped to do so in the parts of the world where this would be critical.
In those parts of the world, it's even more critical to have GPS, because, as mentioned.. there are not streets for which to give an address on.
More critical for the police to have GPS. As a person who lives there, you simply need to know YOUR location.
That's theoretically useful in the case where you are sending a message in a bottle and somehow know your three word address and memorized it and you wont' move for years and hopefully someone gets that bottle and finds your note and sends the police. But for anyone with a phone, this is just silly.
