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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
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Gmail Can Now Send Emails as Attachments
Yes, you read that right, Gmail users can now email emails.
Google decided to make it easier to send emails to other people using Gmail, so it's now possible to add one or more emails as an attachment. Typically, if you want to share an email you've received with someone else the easiest way to do so is to forward the email. However, that's not always suitable, especially when there's multiple email threads to send. Until now, you'd have to download the emails first from Gmail and then add them as an attachment, but not anymore.Ugh, I HATE systems that do this!
I'm really trying to understand the need for this IRL? When is forwarding really not enough?
And when do you want an attachment that requires special software to read?
What makes a special software requirement? Granted reading a .eml will likely contain a bunch of junk normals can't understand if not opened in an email reader...
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@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Gmail Can Now Send Emails as Attachments
Yes, you read that right, Gmail users can now email emails.
Google decided to make it easier to send emails to other people using Gmail, so it's now possible to add one or more emails as an attachment. Typically, if you want to share an email you've received with someone else the easiest way to do so is to forward the email. However, that's not always suitable, especially when there's multiple email threads to send. Until now, you'd have to download the emails first from Gmail and then add them as an attachment, but not anymore.Ugh, I HATE systems that do this!
I'm really trying to understand the need for this IRL? When is forwarding really not enough?
And when do you want an attachment that requires special software to read?
What makes a special software requirement? Granted reading a .eml will likely contain a bunch of junk normals can't understand if not opened in an email reader...
Um.... it's a file type that requires a client. It's decently standard as a file type, but it's also super standard for normal people to not have clients that read it. The average person, by far, and a good percentage of companies don't have EML readers. Pretty much anyone on modern web mail doesn't, for example. It's a legacy thing... storing emails in an end user format. It's not part of "email", it's a file for the client.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Gmail Can Now Send Emails as Attachments
Yes, you read that right, Gmail users can now email emails.
Google decided to make it easier to send emails to other people using Gmail, so it's now possible to add one or more emails as an attachment. Typically, if you want to share an email you've received with someone else the easiest way to do so is to forward the email. However, that's not always suitable, especially when there's multiple email threads to send. Until now, you'd have to download the emails first from Gmail and then add them as an attachment, but not anymore.Ugh, I HATE systems that do this!
I'm really trying to understand the need for this IRL? When is forwarding really not enough?
And when do you want an attachment that requires special software to read?
What makes a special software requirement? Granted reading a .eml will likely contain a bunch of junk normals can't understand if not opened in an email reader...
Um.... it's a file type that requires a client. It's decently standard as a file type, but it's also super standard for normal people to not have clients that read it. The average person, by far, and a good percentage of companies don't have EML readers. Pretty much anyone on modern web mail doesn't, for example. It's a legacy thing... storing emails in an end user format. It's not part of "email", it's a file for the client.
yeah, hadn't considered mobile users.. that could be a problem. But most users are using a web based email client, like yahoo, gmail, outlook.com, etc... I'm assuming most of those will display a .eml file natively with their own viewers.
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@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Gmail Can Now Send Emails as Attachments
Yes, you read that right, Gmail users can now email emails.
Google decided to make it easier to send emails to other people using Gmail, so it's now possible to add one or more emails as an attachment. Typically, if you want to share an email you've received with someone else the easiest way to do so is to forward the email. However, that's not always suitable, especially when there's multiple email threads to send. Until now, you'd have to download the emails first from Gmail and then add them as an attachment, but not anymore.Ugh, I HATE systems that do this!
I'm really trying to understand the need for this IRL? When is forwarding really not enough?
And when do you want an attachment that requires special software to read?
What makes a special software requirement? Granted reading a .eml will likely contain a bunch of junk normals can't understand if not opened in an email reader...
Um.... it's a file type that requires a client. It's decently standard as a file type, but it's also super standard for normal people to not have clients that read it. The average person, by far, and a good percentage of companies don't have EML readers. Pretty much anyone on modern web mail doesn't, for example. It's a legacy thing... storing emails in an end user format. It's not part of "email", it's a file for the client.
yeah, hadn't considered mobile users.. that could be a problem. But most users are using a web based email client, like yahoo, gmail, outlook.com, etc... I'm assuming most of those will display a .eml file natively with their own viewers.
I don't think that they will. I know that I've never had a system that showed it and I use all of those (not Outlook.) I assume Gmail will now with this new change, that's likely what changed!
But it is absolutely not standard for web interfaces to open EML file types and display them.
And even if the big boys like O365, Gmail, and Zoho move to that, you still have a world full of people using RoundCube, Zimbra, or just freebie web hosting mail (we get this for the majority of customers, not the rare ones) who will never get it.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Gmail Can Now Send Emails as Attachments
Yes, you read that right, Gmail users can now email emails.
Google decided to make it easier to send emails to other people using Gmail, so it's now possible to add one or more emails as an attachment. Typically, if you want to share an email you've received with someone else the easiest way to do so is to forward the email. However, that's not always suitable, especially when there's multiple email threads to send. Until now, you'd have to download the emails first from Gmail and then add them as an attachment, but not anymore.Ugh, I HATE systems that do this!
I'm really trying to understand the need for this IRL? When is forwarding really not enough?
And when do you want an attachment that requires special software to read?
What makes a special software requirement? Granted reading a .eml will likely contain a bunch of junk normals can't understand if not opened in an email reader...
Um.... it's a file type that requires a client. It's decently standard as a file type, but it's also super standard for normal people to not have clients that read it. The average person, by far, and a good percentage of companies don't have EML readers. Pretty much anyone on modern web mail doesn't, for example. It's a legacy thing... storing emails in an end user format. It's not part of "email", it's a file for the client.
yeah, hadn't considered mobile users.. that could be a problem. But most users are using a web based email client, like yahoo, gmail, outlook.com, etc... I'm assuming most of those will display a .eml file natively with their own viewers.
I don't think that they will. I know that I've never had a system that showed it and I use all of those (not Outlook.) I assume Gmail will now with this new change, that's likely what changed!
But it is absolutely not standard for web interfaces to open EML file types and display them.
And even if the big boys like O365, Gmail, and Zoho move to that, you still have a world full of people using RoundCube, Zimbra, or just freebie web hosting mail (we get this for the majority of customers, not the rare ones) who will never get it.
Well, then it's a good thing that it's likely most of use will never see this issue from this new feature of Google's... how many people do you know trying to send multiple emails onto another person?
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Gmail Can Now Send Emails as Attachments
Yes, you read that right, Gmail users can now email emails.
Google decided to make it easier to send emails to other people using Gmail, so it's now possible to add one or more emails as an attachment. Typically, if you want to share an email you've received with someone else the easiest way to do so is to forward the email. However, that's not always suitable, especially when there's multiple email threads to send. Until now, you'd have to download the emails first from Gmail and then add them as an attachment, but not anymore.Ugh, I HATE systems that do this!
To report email as spam to symantec cloud, you actually have to do this as it keeps the original email header intact. That's the only additional use case that I can think of.
I'm a little surprised that this wasn't already a feature but when it comes down to it, how many people using Gmail/GSuite are using an alternative spam filter service?
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If you want to send someone a bunch of emails related to a project, or an issue of some kind, inline forwarding doesn't work. You need to forward them as attachments. Then you can get those forwarded email into your account as if you where on cc, meaning the receiver and sender and everything is intact.
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And an EML file is basically a text file identical to the raw email as it was sent over the wire, with MIME encoded attachments and everything. Same as the content in maildir files stored by mail servers and inside mbox files (except it has many emails in one file). So it's not some proprietary client email format, it the ARPA Internet Text Messages format.
If you wanted to archive your emails EML would be the format to do it in.
It would be an easy thing to get a web based mail client to show the eml file as a proper email because it's the same as whats stored on the mail server.
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@Dashrender said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Greenshot is still better. I don't recall the other things that people around here use.
I don't think I would make it to lunch if I didn't have Greenshot at my finger tips!
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@Pete-S said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
It would be an easy thing to get a web based mail client to show the eml file as a proper email because it's the same as whats stored on the mail server.
Should be easy just because it's not a complex format. But it's not necessarily the format on server. Lots of servers don't use that.
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T-Mobile 5G Secrets Revealed: Here's Where It Doesn't Work Well
T-Mobile's new "nationwide" 5G can double your 4G speeds...or not. We explain why and give you maps of where it works well.
For people in many major metro areas, T-Mobile's new low-band 5G and its OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren phone will offer little advantage over 4G—unless the T-Mobile/Sprint merger goes through. T-Mobile's low-band 5G launched last week. I've been testing it with the McLaren phone—first in Maui, where it performed very well, and then in New York City, where it hasn't performed as well. T-Mobile's low-band 5G is most likely to benefit people in smaller cities and rural areas. In those places people could see significant speed increases. In 16 of the nation's top metro areas, T-Mobile's 5G will currently bring no benefit. It will bring relatively little benefit in 22 other major metros. -
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
T-Mobile 5G Secrets Revealed: Here's Where It Doesn't Work Well
T-Mobile's new "nationwide" 5G can double your 4G speeds...or not. We explain why and give you maps of where it works well.
For people in many major metro areas, T-Mobile's new low-band 5G and its OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren phone will offer little advantage over 4G—unless the T-Mobile/Sprint merger goes through. T-Mobile's low-band 5G launched last week. I've been testing it with the McLaren phone—first in Maui, where it performed very well, and then in New York City, where it hasn't performed as well. T-Mobile's low-band 5G is most likely to benefit people in smaller cities and rural areas. In those places people could see significant speed increases. In 16 of the nation's top metro areas, T-Mobile's 5G will currently bring no benefit. It will bring relatively little benefit in 22 other major metros.So it's the same or better than 4G... with the ability to get better, if using the low-band.
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@Obsolesce said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@mlnews said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
T-Mobile 5G Secrets Revealed: Here's Where It Doesn't Work Well
T-Mobile's new "nationwide" 5G can double your 4G speeds...or not. We explain why and give you maps of where it works well.
For people in many major metro areas, T-Mobile's new low-band 5G and its OnePlus 7T Pro McLaren phone will offer little advantage over 4G—unless the T-Mobile/Sprint merger goes through. T-Mobile's low-band 5G launched last week. I've been testing it with the McLaren phone—first in Maui, where it performed very well, and then in New York City, where it hasn't performed as well. T-Mobile's low-band 5G is most likely to benefit people in smaller cities and rural areas. In those places people could see significant speed increases. In 16 of the nation's top metro areas, T-Mobile's 5G will currently bring no benefit. It will bring relatively little benefit in 22 other major metros.So it's the same or better than 4G... with the ability to get better, if using the low-band.
On t-mo - yes.
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Veeam Offers Native backup for Amazon EC2 instances
https://www.veeam.com/blog/amazon-ec2-native-backup-recovery.html"...fully featured free edition, however the strongest value comes in the capabilities explained below. Read on to discover why this is a must-have for anyone running Amazon EC2 instances.
- AWS-native
- Automates Amazon EBS snapshots for frequent backup and fast restores
- Copy to Amazon S3 for long-term retention
- Policy-based protection
- Deployed from Amazon Marketplace with simple web-based management UI"
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Google Cloud gets a new family of cheaper general-purpose compute instances
https://techcrunch.com/2019/12/11/google-cloud-gets-a-new-family-of-cheaper-general-purpose-compute-instances/"Google Cloud today announced the launch of its new E2 family of compute instances. These new instances, which are meant for general-purpose workloads, offer a significant cost benefit, with saving of around 31% compared to the current N1 general-purpose instances.
The E2 family runs on standard Intel and AMD chips, but as Google notes, they also use a custom CPU scheduler “that dynamically maps virtual CPU and memory to physical CPU and memory to maximize utilization.” In addition, the new system is also smarter about where it places VMs, with the added flexibility to move them to other hosts as necessary. To achieve all of this, Google built a custom CPU scheduler “with significantly better latency guarantees and co-scheduling behavior than Linux’s default scheduler.” The new scheduler promises sub-microsecond wake-up latencies and faster context switching."
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@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Google Cloud gets a new family of cheaper general-purpose compute instances
As soon as someone mentions Google Cloud in News, I assume that they are shutting it down to pursue other projects.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Google Cloud gets a new family of cheaper general-purpose compute instances
As soon as someone mentions Google Cloud in News, I assume that they are shutting it down to pursue other projects.
Yeah. I usually look at these in terms of how it moves the whole cloud industry forward (and making it less expensive).
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@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Google Cloud gets a new family of cheaper general-purpose compute instances
As soon as someone mentions Google Cloud in News, I assume that they are shutting it down to pursue other projects.
Yeah. I usually look at these in terms of how it moves the whole cloud industry forward (and making it less expensive).
For sure. I just keep expecting Google to forget that they do this and shut it down with little warning.
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@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@scottalanmiller said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
@wrx7m said in Miscellaneous Tech News:
Google Cloud gets a new family of cheaper general-purpose compute instances
As soon as someone mentions Google Cloud in News, I assume that they are shutting it down to pursue other projects.
Yeah. I usually look at these in terms of how it moves the whole cloud industry forward (and making it less expensive).
For sure. I just keep expecting Google to forget that they do this and shut it down with little warning.
Quite possible. It has happened to many of their higher-profile "products".
