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    • IT-ADMINI
      IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said:

      The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

      We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

      yes, i got it,
      but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

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      • alexntgA
        alexntg @IT-ADMIN
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        @IT-ADMIN said:

        @alexntg said:

        CUCM appears to be capable of recording calls:
        http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/admin/6_0_1/ccmfeat/cmfsgd601/fsmr.html

        Do you have full management and configuration access to the CUCM?

        No, unfortunatelly i don't have full control over it, they provide me only a portion of the management, a username and password in a webconfigurator to manage extensions and manage hung group and pickup group (basic task only), and themself they don't have the recording feather in their UCM (they claim )

        In that case, work with your provider to get a recorder set up and hooked up to your system. It may take a bit of effort because two companies are involved, but with the proper teamwork between you and your provider, it sounds quite doable.

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        • Minion QueenM
          Minion Queen Banned
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          There are other hosted options out there for PBX systems

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
            last edited by

            @IT-ADMIN said:

            @scottalanmiller said:

            The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

            We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

            yes, i got it,
            but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

            No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @Minion Queen
              last edited by

              @Minion-Queen said:

              There are other hosted options out there for PBX systems

              Exactly. We offer 3CX exactly as he is suggesting but we know it isn't a good answer. Hosted Elastix or hosted FreePBX costs less and does more. 3CX is purely a negative in this scenario.

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              • alexntgA
                alexntg @scottalanmiller
                last edited by

                @scottalanmiller said:

                @IT-ADMIN said:

                @scottalanmiller said:

                The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                yes, i got it,
                but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @alexntg
                  last edited by

                  @alexntg said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  @IT-ADMIN said:

                  @scottalanmiller said:

                  The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                  We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                  yes, i got it,
                  but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                  No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                  The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                  He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                  In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

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                  • alexntgA
                    alexntg @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @alexntg said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                    @scottalanmiller said:

                    The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                    We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                    yes, i got it,
                    but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                    No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                    The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                    He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                    In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                    Where's the other one? From what I'm reading here, it's a brilliant setup. With the onsite ISR and switch combined with hosted PBX, it allows for all of the automation and endpoint configuration that makes Cisco wonderful, and also allows for a carefully controlled environment in order to provide proper service quality. Perhaps something in this particular deployment/implementation is screwed up, but the groundwork is quite ideal.

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                    • IT-ADMINI
                      IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @alexntg said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      @IT-ADMIN said:

                      @scottalanmiller said:

                      The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                      We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                      yes, i got it,
                      but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                      No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                      The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                      He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                      In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                      you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @IT-ADMIN
                        last edited by

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @alexntg said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        @IT-ADMIN said:

                        @scottalanmiller said:

                        The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                        We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                        yes, i got it,
                        but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                        No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                        The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                        He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                        In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                        you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                        That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

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                        • IT-ADMINI
                          IT-ADMIN
                          last edited by

                          the ISP give us a pstn line, and a cisco voice gateway, the voice gateway connected with the POE switch, and the cisco ip phone connected with the switch, the switch does the DHCP for the ip phones, the pfSense does DHCP for computers
                          the switch has 2 VLANs

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                          • IT-ADMINI
                            IT-ADMIN
                            last edited by

                            the hosted UCM is connected with my switch via a pstn line (voice gateway in the middle)
                            they charge us for every cisco ip phone (we gave them the MAC address for each ip phone)

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                            • IT-ADMINI
                              IT-ADMIN
                              last edited by

                              each cisco ip phone has it own extension and pstn number,
                              they give us a portion of the management via webconfigurator (VOSS)

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                              • IT-ADMINI
                                IT-ADMIN @scottalanmiller
                                last edited by

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @alexntg said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                @IT-ADMIN said:

                                @scottalanmiller said:

                                The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                                yes, i got it,
                                but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                                No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                                The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                                He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                                In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                                you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                                That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

                                i think so, they said to me that we don't provide recording for our customer, they tell me you can do that via third party software on your LAN,
                                but as far as i can see it is not possible to do that except via your VOIP server, otherwise you cannot

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                                • alexntgA
                                  alexntg
                                  last edited by

                                  The phones should be registering with the CUCM (or in some cases the ISR).. The ISR would be communicating with the CUCM over IP, not via PSTN. The PSTN would be used for external telephone communications, or depending on the setup, is just there for E911. Without seeing the ISR config, it's hard to know for sure.

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                                  • alexntgA
                                    alexntg @IT-ADMIN
                                    last edited by

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @alexntg said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    @IT-ADMIN said:

                                    @scottalanmiller said:

                                    The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                    We sell 3CX hosting for people who require it but we don't recommend it because we know it just limits you - similar issues to what you are running into already with your current solution. It's crippled and/or expensive compared to high end enterprise options like Elastix.

                                    yes, i got it,
                                    but me unfortunatlly more limited with my current VOIP solution, at least 3CX provide recording option

                                    No you don't understand. 3CX is not a good way to get the recording option. All he's really suggesting is that you move to hosted PBX. Which is a great idea. Just don't do it with 3CX. That's the wrong way to accomplish your goals.

                                    The OP has a hosted PBX now, according to the initial post in this thread.

                                    He doesn't though. It's a misuse of the term. He has hosted VoIP on a shared PBX. He doesn't have his own PBX or if he does he has no access to it.

                                    In either case his service is horrible and probably way too expensive. There are two threads on this so not all information is here.

                                    you are right, we have a hosted VOIP, and maybe it is shared with others,

                                    That's where the issues come in. They probably can't enable that feature without causing problems in their shared environment.

                                    i think so, they said to me that we don't provide recording for our customer, they tell me you can do that via third party software on your LAN,
                                    but as far as i can see it is not possible to do that except via your VOIP server, otherwise you cannot

                                    CUCM does allow for an external recorder that could be situated on your network.

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                                    • IT-ADMINI
                                      IT-ADMIN @alexntg
                                      last edited by

                                      CUCM does allow for an external recorder that could be situated on your network.

                                      tell me please which software can do that,,,,, i will be very very appreciated

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN
                                        last edited by

                                        this exactly what they tell me, having my own external recorder on my LAN, but which software i don't know ????

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                                        • JaredBuschJ
                                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
                                          last edited by

                                          @scottalanmiller said:

                                          The guy recommending 3CX on Spiceworks is a sales guy. 3CX isn't a "bad" product but it makes no sense for you. He is a 3CX reseller trying to promote what he sells. Which makes sense, but he doesn't sell anything that makes sense for you.

                                          I haven't been on SW for a couple days. let me guess, George?

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                                          • FiyaFlyF
                                            FiyaFly
                                            last edited by

                                            Without extensive research I cannot tell you what would be best, but you can check out this page from Cisco, as they offer five different options for recording your calls. Might be able to help you out. http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/voice_ip_comm/cucm/srnd/collab09/clb09/recordng.html

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