I am going to start an ISP
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@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
Got IPv6 on my cell phone. Every time I check from work or home, its always IPv4.
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My home ISP in San Diego is IPv6, (also IPv4). My cell phone (t-mobile) is also IPv6.
I'm in Sweden now, and my cell phone data (Comviq) is also IPv6, but home data is showing IPv4... (can't get in to see if it has an IPv6 address like at home).
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@dashrender said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Have you thought about IPv6? Why start a millennium behind?
Just a thought!
And that is not a bad thought at all. Need to familiarize myself more with IPv6, but still a possibility.
I just still believe its never going to happen. Some type of paradigm shift is going to have to occur, akin to where iPhone brought mobile computing to the masses and boosted social networks.
Mostly, because case in point, even experienced IT admins still havent messed much with it. Even in VoIP you got ICE, which is far superior to TURN - but not adoption at all.
It's heavily used publically... LANs, no, it's very rare.
Most of everything is IPv6 now... look at all major ISPs and Cell data.
On your cellphone, turn off your WiFi and go to whatismyip.com
Not really, are you in Europe or soemthing.
Carrier Grade NAT has been much preferred over IPv6 with mobile carriers in the US at least.
I am writing this from my mobile phone cell connection with an IPv4 address
yeah, but is it a NAT'ed address?
Carrier Grade NAT is where mobile carriers are heading and it solves more problems than IPv6 for them.
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?
Are you fing [moderated] stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing [moderated] sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.
Anything but building your own f***ing [moderated] tower.
Dumb a** [moderated]!
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
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Oh @JaredBusch I need to mail you some stuff, send me your address.
Snail mail
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I want to send you this mug, to go with the Oh for Fox Sake mug you got.
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing [moderated] stupid?
Are you fing [moderated] stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing [moderated] sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.
Anything but building your own f***ing [moderated] tower.
Dumb a** [moderated]!
The point here is that 50 K investment is not large it all for somebody starting their own business in any industry.
Your post said nothing about thinking it was bad enough just for a tower compared to renting or something like that.
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing stupid?
Are you fing stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.
Anything but building your own f***ing tower.
Dumb ass!
The point here is that 50 K investment is not large it all for somebody starting their own business in any industry.
Your post said nothing about thinking it was bad enough just for a tower compared to renting or something like that.
It was pretty f***[moderated] obvious based on the conversation. So rather than cherry picking my posts, read the topic and get an idea of the conversation.
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
This is in regards to you thinking that spectrum even involved in the picture they don't do that shit was not ever be possible
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@bigbear said in I am going to start an ISP:
I would guess you have an opportunity to mount on a building or tower for free since leasing space from a tower owner and engineers/permit fees haven't been brought up?
Will be interested to see how you fair with UBNT.
What city/zip/are is this in?
I would need as close as I can get to the barrier highway and there are no towers close enough. Therefore, I'm going to need to drop about $50k just to get a tower site up just to get started and installing customers.
Mabank, Texas 75147
So a negative $50K just to start seems like a horrible investment strategy. . .
Are you f***ing stupid?
Are you fing stupid is the question if you think building a tower in the middle of a town is worth it. Fing sign up for a lease on an existing building or water tower.
Anything but building your own f***ing tower.
Dumb ass!
The point here is that 50 K investment is not large it all for somebody starting their own business in any industry.
Your post said nothing about thinking it was bad enough just for a tower compared to renting or something like that.
It was pretty f***ing obvious based on the conversation. So rather than cherry picking my posts, read the topic and get an idea of the conversation.
I read the entire thread and went back just to post that
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
This is in regards to you thinking that spectrum even involved in the picture they don't do that shit was not ever be possible
Drunk much?
Holy f****[moderated]...
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
This is in regards to you thinking that spectrum even involved in the picture they don't do that shit was not ever be possible
Drunk much?
Holy f****[moderated]...
Siri of course. I'll edit it when I am out of traffic
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
This is in regards to you thinking that spectrum even involved in the picture they don't do that shit was not ever be possible
Drunk much?
Holy fuck...
Siri of course. I'll edit it when I am out of traffic
Oh I figured she was juggling your balls. ..
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@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
This is in regards to you thinking that spectrum even involved in the picture they don't do that shit was not ever be possible
Drunk much?
Holy fuck...
Siri of course. I'll edit it when I am out of traffic
Oh I figured she was juggling your balls. ..
It's not my problem that you don't understand business and how things work. And then I call you out on it.
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@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@jaredbusch said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@nerdydad said in I am going to start an ISP:
@dustinb3403 said in I am going to start an ISP:
@tim_g said in I am going to start an ISP:
Where will you get your WISP's internet feed from?
Spectrum services the area, just not a reasonable enough area. . .
They'd be an easy competitor as they are offering <1MB download speed services for $50/month in the area.
But if their speeds are so awful, where are you expecting to get enough bandwidth for your WISP?
WTF
Again, this was before he stated he was using someone on the other side of town.
And to that point @NerdyDad if there is another provider on the opposite site of town, are they just outside of the region you're looking to provide service to?
This is in regards to you thinking that spectrum even involved in the picture they don't do that shit was not ever be possible
Drunk much?
Holy fuck...
Siri of course. I'll edit it when I am out of traffic
Oh I figured she was juggling your balls. ..
It's not my problem that you don't understand business and how things work. And then I call you out on it.
Clearly there is a misunderstanding here.
Any investment that can be avoided is a good thing. Wasting 50K or more for a tower of your own is a horrible investment. @NerdyDad is in a town, with plenty of buildings around. I'm sure plenty of which would be willing to lease their roofs to him.
Which would remove a shit ton of paperwork and cost from him starting his own business. If you can't see that as an obvious fact I have no way to help you understand business.
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@dustinb3403 buildings come with their own host of issues that can potentially make a tower a much better investment.
