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    • alexntgA
      alexntg @garak0410
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      @garak0410 said:

      @alexntg said:

      @garak0410 said:

      @garak0410 said:

      @alexntg said:

      You should see a related tunnel/rule in your firewall configuration. In an AD environment, the DC should be set as the DNS server, so that doesn't necessarily point to anything specific as the VPN.

      Checking...

      Well, the "free" Endian firewall we use kind of hid these options but I did find something (masking out the IP and port numbers):

      Uplink ANY UDP/1701 ALLOW with IPS 0.0.0.0: 000 L2TP

      Uplink ANY TCP/1723 ALLOW 0.0.0.0: 0.0.0.0 PPTP

      It was pointed at the old server. So, just point this to the new DC and I'll be good? No need to go through and set up ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS since it was never configured on the old server? That's basically where my confusion was in how ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS was never set up on the old one.

      You'll want to configure remote access on the new server first.

      On the DC or allow my "services/file" server to handle it?

      Personal preference? There's pros and cons to both.

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      • garak0410G
        garak0410 @alexntg
        last edited by

        @alexntg said:

        @garak0410 said:

        @alexntg said:

        @garak0410 said:

        @garak0410 said:

        @alexntg said:

        You should see a related tunnel/rule in your firewall configuration. In an AD environment, the DC should be set as the DNS server, so that doesn't necessarily point to anything specific as the VPN.

        Checking...

        Well, the "free" Endian firewall we use kind of hid these options but I did find something (masking out the IP and port numbers):

        Uplink ANY UDP/1701 ALLOW with IPS 0.0.0.0: 000 L2TP

        Uplink ANY TCP/1723 ALLOW 0.0.0.0: 0.0.0.0 PPTP

        It was pointed at the old server. So, just point this to the new DC and I'll be good? No need to go through and set up ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS since it was never configured on the old server? That's basically where my confusion was in how ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS was never set up on the old one.

        You'll want to configure remote access on the new server first.

        On the DC or allow my "services/file" server to handle it?

        Personal preference? There's pros and cons to both.

        Quick side question...since ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS was never configured on the old server/DC (SBS 2003), how did it work then? Just by the tunneling?

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        • alexntgA
          alexntg @garak0410
          last edited by

          @garak0410 said:

          @alexntg said:

          @garak0410 said:

          @alexntg said:

          @garak0410 said:

          @garak0410 said:

          @alexntg said:

          You should see a related tunnel/rule in your firewall configuration. In an AD environment, the DC should be set as the DNS server, so that doesn't necessarily point to anything specific as the VPN.

          Checking...

          Well, the "free" Endian firewall we use kind of hid these options but I did find something (masking out the IP and port numbers):

          Uplink ANY UDP/1701 ALLOW with IPS 0.0.0.0: 000 L2TP

          Uplink ANY TCP/1723 ALLOW 0.0.0.0: 0.0.0.0 PPTP

          It was pointed at the old server. So, just point this to the new DC and I'll be good? No need to go through and set up ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS since it was never configured on the old server? That's basically where my confusion was in how ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS was never set up on the old one.

          You'll want to configure remote access on the new server first.

          On the DC or allow my "services/file" server to handle it?

          Personal preference? There's pros and cons to both.

          Quick side question...since ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS was never configured on the old server/DC (SBS 2003), how did it work then? Just by the tunneling?

          I've never worked with SBS before.

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          • garak0410G
            garak0410 @alexntg
            last edited by

            @alexntg said:

            @garak0410 said:

            @alexntg said:

            @garak0410 said:

            @alexntg said:

            @garak0410 said:

            @garak0410 said:

            @alexntg said:

            You should see a related tunnel/rule in your firewall configuration. In an AD environment, the DC should be set as the DNS server, so that doesn't necessarily point to anything specific as the VPN.

            Checking...

            Well, the "free" Endian firewall we use kind of hid these options but I did find something (masking out the IP and port numbers):

            Uplink ANY UDP/1701 ALLOW with IPS 0.0.0.0: 000 L2TP

            Uplink ANY TCP/1723 ALLOW 0.0.0.0: 0.0.0.0 PPTP

            It was pointed at the old server. So, just point this to the new DC and I'll be good? No need to go through and set up ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS since it was never configured on the old server? That's basically where my confusion was in how ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS was never set up on the old one.

            You'll want to configure remote access on the new server first.

            On the DC or allow my "services/file" server to handle it?

            Personal preference? There's pros and cons to both.

            Quick side question...since ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS was never configured on the old server/DC (SBS 2003), how did it work then? Just by the tunneling?

            I've never worked with SBS before.

            Thanks for tips...as I said, not having ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS set up on the original was causing me to just sit here and shake my head...as I multitask with other things... 🙂

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            • garak0410G
              garak0410 @garak0410
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              @garak0410

              Made the changes in the firewall tunneling and configured ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS on the services server (though had to use CUSTOM since this is a VM and only had one NIC.) Using Windows Authentication, MS-CHAP v2 only...tried a test VPN connection and it fails with ERROR 812...complaining about a policy on the RAS/VPN server and the authentication method used by the server to verify username and password.. Can't seem to find the solution yet but love OTJ training... 🙂 Still searching...

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              • garak0410G
                garak0410 @garak0410
                last edited by

                @garak0410 said:

                @garak0410

                Made the changes in the firewall tunneling and configured ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS on the services server (though had to use CUSTOM since this is a VM and only had one NIC.) Using Windows Authentication, MS-CHAP v2 only...tried a test VPN connection and it fails with ERROR 812...complaining about a policy on the RAS/VPN server and the authentication method used by the server to verify username and password.. Can't seem to find the solution yet but love OTJ training... 🙂 Still searching...

                Still trying to solve this problem. Do I need to set up NPS to configure NAP? As I've referred to Ad nauseam, the old server didn't have anything special set up.

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                • garak0410G
                  garak0410 @garak0410
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                  More in depth details on the connection problem:

                  Error 812: THE CONNECTION WAS PREVENTED BECAUSE OF A POLICY CONFIGURED ON YOUR RAS/VPN SERVER. SPECIFICALLY, THE AUTHENTICATION METHOD USED BY THE SERVER TO VERIFY YOUR USERNAME AND PASSWORD MAY NOT MATCH THE AUTHENICATION METOHD CONFIGURED IN YOUR CONNECTION PROFILE.

                  In the properties under ROUTING AND REMOTE ACCESS for my server, under security tab, I have EAP and MS-CHAP V2 selected. on the client, it's security tab is set to Automatic VPN and Allow these protocols with MS-CHAP V2 selected.

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                  • JaredBuschJ
                    JaredBusch @garak0410
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                    @garak0410 I have never used Windows RAS before so cannot help ya there. Are you sure there was no 3rd party application running as a service on the old server?

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                    • garak0410G
                      garak0410 @JaredBusch
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                      @JaredBusch said:

                      @garak0410 I have never used Windows RAS before so cannot help ya there. Are you sure there was no 3rd party application running as a service on the old server?

                      Agreed and checked...nothing...after all the suggestions above, I only found the tunneling information in the firewall that pointed to this server.

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                      • garak0410G
                        garak0410 @garak0410
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                        @garak0410

                        Going to remove and reinstall the Remote Access role. Just waiting for people to get out of here...come on people...it is well after 5 on a Friday! 🙂

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @garak0410
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                          @garak0410 said:

                          @garak0410

                          Going to remove and reinstall the Remote Access role. Just waiting for people to get out of here...come on people...it is well after 5 on a Friday! 🙂

                          Can't work remotely?

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                          • garak0410G
                            garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said:

                            @garak0410 said:

                            @garak0410

                            Going to remove and reinstall the Remote Access role. Just waiting for people to get out of here...come on people...it is well after 5 on a Friday! 🙂

                            Can't work remotely?

                            Well, Scott...I fixed that issue we discussed with the IP address of the old server needed for pre-migration created projects...adding it as a secondary IP to the new file server works like a charm. Now if I can get this dang VPN working, I can officially shut down that old, blasted server.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller
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                              Have you used telnet to verify that the server is responding on that port as expected?

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                              • garak0410G
                                garak0410 @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller

                                Yes it responds...now, one thing I didn't know about is that there is a DIAL-IN tab for the users...it is not in the remote admin tools but I have to do it directly from the DC...I go into a remote user, go to the Dial-In tab and allow permission...bam...got in but then couldn't name resolve anything while on VPN and my network connection on my client went to limited...

                                So firing up the old server for now to just retain VPN and figure it out next week...

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                                • garak0410G
                                  garak0410 @garak0410
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                                  @garak0410

                                  This problem bugged me so came into the office. I've made a successful VPN connection (woo) but cannot connect to desktop via Remote Desktop. The subnet mask should be 255.255.255.0 in my static address pool for VPN and it shows that subnet. When I VPN with a client, it shows 255.255.255.255 but with a good IP, good DNS server and no default gateway. Any way to fix that? If I can get that fixed, my work here is done and the old server is gone for good.

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                                  • garak0410G
                                    garak0410 @garak0410
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                                    @garak0410

                                    It helps to think "out loud" on here. OK. Problem solved. I resolved the problem by setting the static IP range at the higher end of my pool. Signed into VPN with no problem and remote desktop with NO problem.

                                    @scottalanmiller

                                    Can you believe it? This server is going DOWN today. Wooo. Putting its old IP as a secondary IP on the new file server so those VBA projects will continue to work, doing the final demotion and we are done. Thanks for all your help!

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                                    • garak0410G
                                      garak0410 @garak0410
                                      last edited by

                                      @garak0410 said:

                                      @garak0410

                                      It helps to think "out loud" on here. OK. Problem solved. I resolved the problem by setting the static IP range at the higher end of my pool. Signed into VPN with no problem and remote desktop with NO problem.

                                      @scottalanmiller

                                      Can you believe it? This server is going DOWN today. Wooo. Putting its old IP as a secondary IP on the new file server so those VBA projects will continue to work, doing the final demotion and we are done. Thanks for all your help!

                                      Except after the demotion, VPN has gone back to not allowing me to ping IP addresses or remote desktop. Any clue?

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                                      • IT-ADMINI
                                        IT-ADMIN
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                                        i don't know why are you using Microsoft product for managing your VPN connection, me personally i have a site to site VPN connection using 2 pfSense boxes in each office, and everything work fine without issues, no need for authentication since the 2 offices connected 24/24, and even with dynamic ip, using dynDNS record

                                        can't you change your current setup ???

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                                        • alexntgA
                                          alexntg @IT-ADMIN
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                                          @IT-ADMIN said:

                                          i don't know why are you using Microsoft product for managing your VPN connection, me personally i have a site to site VPN connection using 2 pfSense boxes in each office, and everything work fine without issues, no need for authentication since the 2 offices connected 24/24, and even with dynamic ip, using dynDNS record

                                          can't you change your current setup ???

                                          Site-to-site VPNs don't help mobile users.

                                          Outside of DirectAccess, I haven't used RRAS since Windows 2000. If needed, I could build out a test box in my lab.

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                                          • garak0410G
                                            garak0410 @garak0410
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                                            Still having some quirks but this more or less worked over the weekend. Just had to use the FQDN when using remote desktop when on a VPN connection. Didn't have to before.

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