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      DustinB3403 @gjacobse
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      @gjacobse said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

      Why would you want a hub over a switch?

      I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

      You're missing it.

      I need a switch to act as a basic hub. It's doing nothing but passing network to a few other devices.

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        FATeknollogee
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        @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

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          DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
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          @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

          @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

          Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

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            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

            Yeah a dumb netgear for less than half the price.

            That's what I would likely do.

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              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

              @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

              @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

              Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

              Switches are not hubs. They are different things. Hubs are a tier 1 device, Switches are a tier 2.

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                JaredBusch
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                This post belongs in my WTF thread

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                  brianlittlejohn @DustinB3403
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                  @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                  @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                  @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                  Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                  There is always switching taking place on a switch. All switches operate on layer 2. Hubs have no switching and operate at layer 1, so they are two different things.

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                    FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                    @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                    This post belongs in my WTF thread

                    Where is the thumbs-up emoji when ya need it!

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                      Dashrender
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                      OK seems like there is some confusion here.

                      Hubs simply rebroadcast something that comes in on a port onto every other port on the hub

                      A switch typically operators at Layer 2 - it knows what devices are on each port and only sends traffic to the port that is responsible for the device in question.

                      But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                      I suppose if someone was only ever introduced to the layer 3 style switches, they might assume all switches work this way, and they knew Hubs didn't so...

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                        coliver @DustinB3403
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                        @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                        @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                        Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                        Wtf are you talking about?

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                          Dashrender @coliver
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                          @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                          @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                          Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                          Wtf are you talking about?

                          My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

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                            EddieJennings @Dashrender
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                            @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                            @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                            Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                            Wtf are you talking about?

                            My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                            Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

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                              Dashrender @EddieJennings
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                              @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                              @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                              Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                              Wtf are you talking about?

                              My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                              Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                              In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosed 😛

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                                JaredBusch @Dashrender
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                                @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                Wtf are you talking about?

                                My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                                Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

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                                  Dashrender @JaredBusch
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                                  @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                  @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                  Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                  Wtf are you talking about?

                                  My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                  Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                  In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100, so if you want Gbit, you'd be hosted 😛

                                  Just to be a dick, what the fuck does hosted have to do with it?

                                  yup, I deserve that - it was supposed to be hosed...

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                                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                    @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                    Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                    Wtf are you talking about?

                                    My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                    Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                    In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                                    That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

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                                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                                      @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                      But a switch can also have router functions built it, often called a layer 3 switch. These switches have some smarts, enough to route traffic between two or more networks.

                                      THat acutally makes it a multi-port router.

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                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        @gjacobse said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                        Why would you want a hub over a switch?

                                        I may have something - albeit used and old... but I can look.

                                        You're missing it.

                                        I need a switch to act as a basic hub. It's doing nothing but passing network to a few other devices.

                                        I suppose you could set a switch to broadcast everything to every port. Why would you ever want this, though? What's the goal?

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                                          EddieJennings @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @eddiejennings said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @dashrender said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @coliver said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @dustinb3403 said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                          @DustinB3403 Why are you calling it a "hub"?

                                          Because there is no switching taking place. The devices simply ask for a dhcp address, and go. All switches are hubs, so a basic unmanaged switch.

                                          Wtf are you talking about?

                                          My guess - a confusion between switching and routing.

                                          Probably wants a switch, but is calling it a hub, not realizing that a hub is a specific thing that sends all traffic out all ports (layer 1).

                                          In this case, either would probably work, but hubs are limited to 10/100,...

                                          That's true, the GBit standard prohibits hubs.

                                          @QuixoticJeremy Are you bored again? We need a hub that can get around Ethernet standards and pass traffic at gigabit speeds!

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                                            BRRABill @FATeknollogee
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                                            @fateknollogee said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Just need a basic Switch - to act as a Hub:

                                            This post belongs in my WTF thread

                                            Where is the thumbs-up emoji when ya need it!

                                            That what the "upvote" button is for. 🙂

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