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    The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      Buried in here, I'm told, lol, for those that want to dig it out: https://pages.nist.gov/800-63-3/sp800-63b.html

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      • stacksofplatesS
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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Could have sworn I posted about this weeks ago. 😉

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @Dashrender
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            @dashrender said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

            Could have sworn I posted about this weeks ago. 😉

            You did, but you didn't claim that NIST followed your recommendation.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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              @jaredbusch said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

              @dashrender said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

              Could have sworn I posted about this weeks ago. 😉

              You did, but you didn't claim that NIST followed your recommendation.

              I only said that they mirrored it, not followed it. Not quite the same.

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              • gjacobseG
                gjacobse
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                just found this:

                Man who came up with rules for creating passwords says he blew it

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @gjacobse
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                  @gjacobse said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                  just found this:

                  Man who came up with rules for creating passwords says he blew it

                  During the interview, Burr also admitted that he didn't know much about how passwords worked when he created the memo.

                  WTF are you doing making a memo then? Not that we probably really understood the potential issues at that point, but still.

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                  • DustinB3403D
                    DustinB3403 @Dashrender
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                    @dashrender said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                    @gjacobse said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                    just found this:

                    Man who came up with rules for creating passwords says he blew it

                    During the interview, Burr also admitted that he didn't know much about how passwords worked when he created the memo.

                    WTF are you doing making a memo then? Not that we probably really understood the potential issues at that point, but still.

                    Because he was fucking paid to write the memo. Do what you're told or find a new job.

                    Obviously.

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                    • DashrenderD
                      Dashrender @DustinB3403
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                      @dustinb3403 said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                      @dashrender said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                      @gjacobse said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                      just found this:

                      Man who came up with rules for creating passwords says he blew it

                      During the interview, Burr also admitted that he didn't know much about how passwords worked when he created the memo.

                      WTF are you doing making a memo then? Not that we probably really understood the potential issues at that point, but still.

                      Because he was fucking paid to write the memo. Do what you're told or find a new job.

                      Obviously.

                      Yeah - more govment meaningless crap! 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @dashrender said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                        @gjacobse said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                        just found this:

                        Man who came up with rules for creating passwords says he blew it

                        During the interview, Burr also admitted that he didn't know much about how passwords worked when he created the memo.

                        WTF are you doing making a memo then? Not that we probably really understood the potential issues at that point, but still.

                        We all knew whoever did it didn't know the first thing about passwords. But why the NIST let him make it... that's the real question.

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                        • DustinB3403D
                          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller is that really the question.

                          More importantly why does it fucking matter. It was written so long ago and there has been plenty of time and evidence that what was written down was complete bullshit.

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                          • DashrenderD
                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                            @dashrender said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                            @gjacobse said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                            just found this:

                            Man who came up with rules for creating passwords says he blew it

                            During the interview, Burr also admitted that he didn't know much about how passwords worked when he created the memo.

                            WTF are you doing making a memo then? Not that we probably really understood the potential issues at that point, but still.

                            We all knew whoever did it didn't know the first thing about passwords. But why the NIST let him make it... that's the real question.

                            this was my real question...

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @dustinb3403 said in The NIST Finally Formally Chooses SAM Security Model for Passwords:

                              @scottalanmiller is that really the question.

                              More importantly why does it fucking matter. It was written so long ago and there has been plenty of time and evidence that what was written down was complete bullshit.

                              Except they new it was BS in 2003, too.

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