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    Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi

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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @Dashrender
      last edited by

      @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

      Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

      Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

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      • Emad RE
        Emad R @Obsolesce
        last edited by Emad R

        @tim_g

        I like , and I do use this but a couple of pointers:

        Minimal setup can be:
        wget http://kimchi-project.github.io/wok/downloads/latest/wok.el7.centos.noarch.rpm
        wget http://kimchi-project.github.io/kimchi/downloads/latest/kimchi.el7.centos.noarch.rpm

        Cause you are downloading this on server, and gingerbase is good and all, but it just provides the monitoring and shutdown of Host, which can be optional.

        Secondly Kimchi is very modular, and you can stop it :

        systemctl stop wokd
        systemctl stop nginx
        

        And you are back to Vanilla KVM, what I do is I rely on cockpit and have those packages ready if needed. and start them manually / on demand. cause they do consume some RAM. but still very neat ESXi contender.

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        • PenguinWranglerP
          PenguinWrangler @JaredBusch
          last edited by

          @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

          @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

          Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

          Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

          Do you have more info on this?

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          • JaredBuschJ
            JaredBusch @PenguinWrangler
            last edited by

            @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

            @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

            @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

            Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

            Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

            Do you have more info on this?

            @KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.

            https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34

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            • PenguinWranglerP
              PenguinWrangler @JaredBusch
              last edited by

              @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

              @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

              @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

              @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

              Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

              Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

              Do you have more info on this?

              @KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.

              https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34

              I literally stopped reading that thread the post before his post! Got busy.

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              • ObsolesceO
                Obsolesce @magicmarker
                last edited by

                @magicmarker said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                @tim_g I was looking for a decent GUI interface to build a KVM Hypervisor for a SAM-SD. See my post here. Thanks for posting this.

                Ah, I completely missed that topic or I would have referenced this one in there for you.

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                • ObsolesceO
                  Obsolesce @PenguinWrangler
                  last edited by

                  @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                  @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                  @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                  @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                  @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                  Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

                  Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

                  Do you have more info on this?

                  @KOOLER (from Starwind) posted about it this morning in another thread.

                  https://mangolassi.it/topic/14684/looking-for-virtualization-advice/34

                  I literally stopped reading that thread the post before his post! Got busy.

                  Lol, me too!

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                    last edited by

                    @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                    @dashrender said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                    Cool - I need to move away from my XS setup. I need to give this a try.

                    Starwind will have an HTML 5 setup for KVM soon.

                    I hope it's nice and featureful.

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce
                      last edited by

                      I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                      Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                      I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

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                      • PenguinWranglerP
                        PenguinWrangler @Obsolesce
                        last edited by

                        @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                        I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                        Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                        I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                        Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

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                        • stacksofplatesS
                          stacksofplates @PenguinWrangler
                          last edited by

                          @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                          @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                          I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                          Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                          I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                          Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                          SPICE sets up a channel for each item. If you set up key based access it won't do that any more. Adding your user to the libvirt group helps management a lot also.

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @PenguinWrangler
                            last edited by

                            @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                            I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                            Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                            I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                            Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                            If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                            I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

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                            • ObsolesceO
                              Obsolesce @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                              @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                              @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                              I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                              Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                              I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                              Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                              If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                              I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                              Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                              I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

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                              • FATeknollogeeF
                                FATeknollogee
                                last edited by

                                @Tim_G Is this is just a 1:1 or can you use this install to manage multiple KVM hosts?

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                                • ObsolesceO
                                  Obsolesce @FATeknollogee
                                  last edited by

                                  @fateknollogee said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                  @Tim_G Is this is just a 1:1 or can you use this install to manage multiple KVM hosts?

                                  I'm not sure I understand the question, but I'll try.

                                  My step-by-step guide is for each host you want to set up.

                                  Then on your Fedora-based workstation/laptop, you can use VMM to view and manage all of your hosts and VMs. This will rely on you being on the local network physically, or via VPN.

                                  Via the web (the Kimchi host/VM manager), that's per host. You need to go to the https://ip:8001 for each host you want to manage. This could potentially be done simply via any web browser anywhere in the world you have an internet connection, without the need to VPN.

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                                  • stacksofplatesS
                                    stacksofplates @Obsolesce
                                    last edited by

                                    @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                    @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                    @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                    @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                    I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                    Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                    I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                    Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                    If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                    I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                                    Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                                    I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

                                    Use keys and it won't matter

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                                    • ObsolesceO
                                      Obsolesce @stacksofplates
                                      last edited by

                                      @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                      I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                      Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                      I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                      Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                      If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                      I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                                      Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                                      I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

                                      Use keys and it won't matter

                                      That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.

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                                      • JaredBuschJ
                                        JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                        last edited by

                                        @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                        @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                        @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                        @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                        @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                        @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                        I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                        Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                        I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                        Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                        If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                        I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                                        Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                                        I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

                                        Use keys and it won't matter

                                        That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.

                                        And put your user in the libvirt group if you haven't.

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                                        • ObsolesceO
                                          Obsolesce @JaredBusch
                                          last edited by

                                          @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                          I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                          Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                          I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                          Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                          If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                          I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                                          Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                                          I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

                                          Use keys and it won't matter

                                          That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.

                                          And put your user in the libvirt group if you haven't.

                                          I'm just using root on this server since it's just a test setup. From what I understand, I don't need to do that with root, so I haven't. Am I wrong?

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                                          • JaredBuschJ
                                            JaredBusch @Obsolesce
                                            last edited by

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @jaredbusch said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @stacksofplates said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @penguinwrangler said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            @tim_g said in Fedora 26 KVM HTML5 Remote Access with Web-Console via Kimchi:

                                            I was also able to remotely connect to the hypervisor on my Korora 25 laptop via VMM.

                                            Caveat: I'm able to manage the VMs settings, but not view through the console. It just keeps repeatedly asking me for the password. No issues adding/removing a NIC, though.

                                            I have some more things to try. I'll report back with results. Anyone else run in to this connecting to a remote host? Maybe it has to do with the VPN connection...

                                            Change your Display in the virtual machine in VMM from SPICE to VNC

                                            If I use VNC, then the webconsole won't work. Id prefer to keep using spice if possible, or find a way to make VNC work.

                                            I will switch it later to see if that resolves the VMM issue.

                                            Okay, so SPICE does work remotely on my Korora laptop via VMM. I just didn't type in my password enough times. It asks for it 6 times before it displays the VM, and there's about a 7-8 second delay when the VM is not running a GUI. After I "startx", then it seems fine, though just a bit laggy.

                                            I also tried switching to VNC, and that just straight up doesn't work. At this point it's just a time sink to get working since SPICE seems to work fine everywhere.

                                            Use keys and it won't matter

                                            That sounds good. I'll see about figuring that out next.

                                            And put your user in the libvirt group if you haven't.

                                            I'm just using root on this server since it's just a test setup. From what I understand, I don't need to do that with root, so I haven't. Am I wrong?

                                            Root already is, so not wrong.

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