Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX
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@jaredbusch said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
I will certainly look into this, but It has to be stupid simple if it is going to be something I recommend.
It sounds great for you because you want to run something MT and have the skill to back it up.
That is not how the majority of people buy into phone systems though. Also, I have zero desire to be a phone provider.
I recommend, assist, and implement. I do not run it, there is no market there for new companies IMO.
I mean new "VoIP Providers" come out every day it seems like.
I think you will be surprised, I have been so far. As a single-tenant solution its still faster than FreePBX, and I find the GUI faster as well.
I believe a lot of your MSP/Reseller types who have a dozen customers or so would see it as a no brainer over FreePBX because of the Domain/MT functionality and the ability to rebrand. Also there are no agressive ads pulling you in to competing services.
But all that aside, my primary goal is still to find and document a FOSS alternative to FreePBX the the average small business can spin up and use.
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@jaredbusch said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
I will certainly look into this, but It has to be stupid simple if it is going to be something I recommend.
It sounds great for you because you want to run something MT and have the skill to back it up.
That is not how the majority of people buy into phone systems though. Also, I have zero desire to be a phone provider.
I recommend, assist, and implement. I do not run it, there is no market there for new companies IMO.
I mean new "VoIP Providers" come out every day it seems like.
Also I know you will figure out twice as much as me in half the time if you give FusionPBX a go @JaredBusch. lol
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@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
I am going with a $20 Vultr instance next as I plan to run 11 tenants and hundreds of phones off this install.
What happens when Vulrt goes down? Do you have 11 company's all calling you for support at the same time?
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@aaronstuder said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
I am going with a $20 Vultr instance next as I plan to run 11 tenants and hundreds of phones off this install.
What happens when Vulrt goes down? Do you have 11 company's all calling you for support at the same time?
Do you mean if a Datacenter fails? Because that would affect FreePBX or FusionPBX the same.
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The handy thing is that when the PBX goes down, the customers can't call you!
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Datacenter failover is pretty simple with most PBX. We've done Canada to US failover before, no issues.
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Is there many people using Fusion PBX in production? is that much of a comparison compared to Freepbx? GUI looks slightly nicer than Freepbx.
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@aaronstuder said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
I am going with a $20 Vultr instance next as I plan to run 11 tenants and hundreds of phones off this install.
What happens when Vulrt goes down? Do you have 11 company's all calling you for support at the same time?
Same thing that happens now with my 11 FreePBX installs.
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@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@aaronstuder said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
I am going with a $20 Vultr instance next as I plan to run 11 tenants and hundreds of phones off this install.
What happens when Vulrt goes down? Do you have 11 company's all calling you for support at the same time?
Same thing that happens now with my 11 FreePBX installs.
But slightly (very slightly) easier to restore one system than eleven.
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If I were to guess, I would guess that @aaronstuder was talking about a single Vultr instance/fusionpbx instance going down, and thus taking out 11 clients.
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@stuartjordan said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
Is there many people using Fusion PBX in production? is that much of a comparison compared to Freepbx? GUI looks slightly nicer than Freepbx.
There are a lot of people using it. In telecom people don't share and recommend much because everyone, even your small no-name itsp guy, all perceive themselves to be in competition.
And again, my focus is on getting more options for single tenant every day phone system installs.
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@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@stuartjordan said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
Is there many people using Fusion PBX in production? is that much of a comparison compared to Freepbx? GUI looks slightly nicer than Freepbx.
There are a lot of people using it. In telecom people don't share and recommend much because everyone, even your small no-name itsp guy, all perceive themselves to be in competition.
And again, my focus is on getting more options for single tenant every day phone system installs.
It's true. It's rare for PBX / VoIP people to talk to each other. ML is rare in that we have several "competitors" talking openly with each other.
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@fuznutz04 said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
If I were to guess, I would guess that @aaronstuder was talking about a single Vultr instance/fusionpbx instance going down, and thus taking out 11 clients.
I haven't had a single instance go down on Vultr since I started using it. Just some reboots during upgrades in NYC location.
With the way freeswitch and domains are setup, and with the single backup, it would still be easier to restore than FreePBX.
You could run 11 FusionPBX instances on $5 vultr machines. In fact Debian 8 would require less resources than the sangoma Linux distro
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@bigbear I downloaded the ISO, I just need to find some time to try it out. I do like the fact that it is based on FreeSwitch, which seems to be used by a lot of the big players. (Flowroute for example)
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@scottalanmiller said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@stuartjordan said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
Is there many people using Fusion PBX in production? is that much of a comparison compared to Freepbx? GUI looks slightly nicer than Freepbx.
There are a lot of people using it. In telecom people don't share and recommend much because everyone, even your small no-name itsp guy, all perceive themselves to be in competition.
And again, my focus is on getting more options for single tenant every day phone system installs.
It's true. It's rare for PBX / VoIP people to talk to each other. ML is rare in that we have several "competitors" talking openly with each other.
Along that thinking I've been wandering if I could negotiate to get my calling rates available for ML members without them coming through my sub account.
I have 2 million minutes of usage per month but if all ML usage was pooled with a Telnyx I bet it could be twice that. Thereby giving everyone a .005 to .007 rate.
Sam model as my wholesale hardware pricing.
Then think about the fact that we could recommend a true FOSS pbx against FreePBX, a wholesale rate vs SIPStation and discounted Yealink phones.
Something along the spirit of Lets Encrypt.
But from that point still continue to encourage other companies to release their pbx as FOSS.
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@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@fuznutz04 said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
If I were to guess, I would guess that @aaronstuder was talking about a single Vultr instance/fusionpbx instance going down, and thus taking out 11 clients.
I haven't had a single instance go down on Vultr since I started using it. Just some reboots during upgrades in NYC location.
With the way freeswitch and domains are setup, and with the single backup, it would still be easier to restore than FreePBX.
You could run 11 FusionPBX instances on $5 vultr machines. In fact Debian 8 would require less resources than the sangoma Linux distro
Yup, same here. Vultr uptime is great. Makes Azure look downright silly.
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@fuznutz04 said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@bigbear I downloaded the ISO, I just need to find some time to try it out. I do like the fact that it is based on FreeSwitch, which seems to be used by a lot of the big players. (Flowroute for example)
Best to spin up Debian 8 on Vultr and run the Jessie script.
I'm working on outlining that onto a very simple single page specific to a Vultr. There is no documentation on Twilio, Telnyx or flowroute so I thought I would add that.
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@bigbear said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@fuznutz04 said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
@bigbear I downloaded the ISO, I just need to find some time to try it out. I do like the fact that it is based on FreeSwitch, which seems to be used by a lot of the big players. (Flowroute for example)
Best to spin up Debian 8 on Vultr and run the Jessie script.
I'm working on outlining that onto a very simple single page specific to a Vultr. There is no documentation on Twilio, Telnyx or flowroute so I thought I would add that.
Good deal. I want to test this as well. We will see how my schedule is (and if I get Internet access back at home.)
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FusionPBX uses the same terminology as FreeSWITCH for Gateways (trunks) and so this is documented at the following links.
Twilio
https://www.twilio.com/blog/2013/03/trying-out-the-twilio-sip-noun-using-freeswitch.htmlFlowroute
https://freeswitch.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2883692Many providers
https://freeswitch.org/confluence/display/FREESWITCH/Providers+ITSPs -
@markjcrane said in Replacing FreePBX with FusionPBX:
FusionPBX uses the same terminology as FreeSWITCH for Gateways (trunks) and so this is documented at the following links.
Twilio
https://www.twilio.com/blog/2013/03/trying-out-the-twilio-sip-noun-using-freeswitch.htmlFlowroute
https://freeswitch.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=2883692Many providers
https://freeswitch.org/confluence/display/FREESWITCH/Providers+ITSPsI saw those @markjcrane but a lot of guys will abandon this if they can't get through a first install.
