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    How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      What is used is called a MAK key.

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      • ObsolesceO
        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

        What is used is called a MAK key.

        Yeah with AVMA, it requires the host to be running Windows Server Datacenter 2012 R2 or 2016 Datacenter. This is something you don't want to do in 99% cases, though, unless you have real business needs that require specific Datacenter-only features on bare-metal that are not available on Hyper-V Server.

        AVMA should never alone be a reason to run Windows on bare-metal. That's just silly.

        What if your Hypervisor was running VMWare or KVM and you have a Datacenter license? You wouldn't get AVMA then anyways on the VMs. It's not actually a benefit.

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          manxam
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          Funny, I do this on Server STD all of the time (utilizing the same serial for the two guest OS' regardless of hypervisor platform) but the two times that I've attempted it with DC the guests fail to activate. I always assumed it was a restriction with DC and that one has to use the full blown Windows installation with hyper-v role on this platform.

          I only have 2 DC clients + 1 DC internal use license so I never investigated it further.

          I guess I'm going down the rabbit hole of figuring out why this never worked for me.

          Thank you.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @manxam
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            @manxam said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

            Funny, I do this on Server STD all of the time (utilizing the same serial for the two guest OS' regardless of hypervisor platform) but the two times that I've attempted it with DC the guests fail to activate. I always assumed it was a restriction with DC and that one has to use the full blown Windows installation with hyper-v role on this platform.

            I only have 2 DC clients + 1 DC internal use license so I never investigated it further.

            I guess I'm going down the rabbit hole of figuring out why this never worked for me.

            Thank you.

            You probably didn't get the MAK keys.

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            • Emad RE
              Emad R @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller

              WOah Hyper-V is for free for real, i just downloaded it (2016) and toyed with it, cause of this video.... I always thought it is not

              And yh downloaded from evaluation site but MS listed as unlimited, amazing video.

              But after using it for the first time, its meh.. it opens cmd window + command line wizard, I wouldnt use it if starting from scatch it likes to be used from AD domain but you can use it without it domain via:

              Step 1

              Enable WinRM on both machines. This can be done trough an elevated command prompt. The command used for enabling WinRM is:
              
              winrm quickconfig
              

              Step 2

              On the Hyper-V Management client open cmd.exe as administrator and add the server as a trusted hosts. Here you can comma separate to add multiple machines.
              
              winrm set winrm/config/client @{TrustedHosts="192.168.1.15"}
              

              Step 3

              On the Hyper-V Management client add credentials to make the connection possible.
              
              cmdkey /add:192.168.1.15 /user:ADMINISTRATOR /pass:**********
              

              Its performance is okay, I managed it using Hyper-V manager in WIndows 10, and it feels very limited.

              I loved that they kept notepad.exe and taskmgr.exe in the HyperV server, I can launch those and avoid Windows command line.

              Notepad.exe --> File --> Open (GREATEST HACK EVER)

              I dont know why GEN 2 cannot be installed from host CD/DVD rom, and GEN 1 can.

              Also it is very difficult to share files or send files, like I am used with WinSCP or SFTP protocol with Linux and KVM, the sharing module is removed in HYPER-V I tried to share but was unable to, kept giving me errors.

              Oh and they provide the hyper v integration as cab file (guest agent):
              windows6.x-hypervintegrationservices-x64.cab

              I cant belive I complained when VIRT IO Tools was repackaged some time ago and they changed some folders in there ISO image, while MS gives you a .cab file and not even an executable.

              Also moving the VMs between 2 HYPERV needs FQDN

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @Emad R
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                @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                @scottalanmiller

                WOah Hyper-V is for free for real, i just downloaded it (2016) and toyed with it, cause of this video.... I always thought it is not

                LOL, yup. Totally free. All features are included, no limits.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @Emad R
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                  @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                  Also it is very difficult to share files or send files, like I am used with WinSCP or SFTP protocol with Linux and KVM, the sharing module is removed in HYPER-V I tried to share but was unable to, kept giving me errors.

                  I've not tested by I can only assume that OpenSSH works fine on Hyper-V. Have you tested it?

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                  • ObsolesceO
                    Obsolesce @Emad R
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                    @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                    I dont know why GEN 2 cannot be installed from host CD/DVD rom, and GEN 1 can.

                    It can. How are you doing it?

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                    • ObsolesceO
                      Obsolesce @Emad R
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                      @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                      Also it is very difficult to share files or send files, like I am used with WinSCP or SFTP protocol with Linux and KVM, the sharing module is removed in HYPER-V I tried to share but was unable to, kept giving me errors.

                      What do you mean? Hyper-V Server isn't a file server.

                      But you can access anywhere on the server via admin share without issue... ex: \server\d$\share

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @Emad R
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                        @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                        Oh and they provide the hyper v integration as cab file (guest agent):
                        windows6.x-hypervintegrationservices-x64.cab
                        I cant belive I complained when VIRT IO Tools was repackaged some time ago and they changed some folders in there ISO image, while MS gives you a .cab file and not even an executable.

                        What do you mean? What VM are you trying to install? You shouldn't need any integration tools at all for any modern operating system on a VM. They come built in and are updated via Windows Update (if running Windows OS)

                        If you install RHEL or CentOS, you can download a Linux Integration Services .ISO if you need to. You simply run the ./install.sh file. All other modern Linux OSs already have the Hyper-V Integration built in to the kernel.

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                        • black3dynamiteB
                          black3dynamite @Obsolesce
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                          @tim_g said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                          @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                          I dont know why GEN 2 cannot be installed from host CD/DVD rom, and GEN 1 can.

                          It can. How are you doing it?

                          Generation 2 only allows ISO
                          Generation 1 allows physical dvd drive and ISO

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                          • ObsolesceO
                            Obsolesce @black3dynamite
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                            @black3dynamite said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                            Generation 2 only allows ISO

                            The ISO can be located on a physical CD. Just browse to it when selecting an ISO for your Gen2 VM.

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                            • black3dynamiteB
                              black3dynamite @Obsolesce
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                              @tim_g said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                              @black3dynamite said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                              Generation 2 only allows ISO

                              The ISO can be located on a physical CD. Just browse to it when selecting an ISO for your Gen2 VM.

                              In Gen1 VM Settings, you can select an image file or a physical CD/DVD drive.
                              In Gen2 VM Settings, you can select an image file only.

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                              • Emad RE
                                Emad R @black3dynamite
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                                • Emad RE
                                  Emad R @black3dynamite
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                                  @black3dynamite said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                  In Gen1 VM Settings, you can select an image file or a physical CD/DVD drive.
                                  In Gen2 VM Settings, you can select an image file only.

                                  thanks for correcting me, yup that is accurate.

                                  reply

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                                  • Emad RE
                                    Emad R @Obsolesce
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                                    @tim_g

                                    @tim_g said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                    @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                    Oh and they provide the hyper v integration as cab file (guest agent):
                                    windows6.x-hypervintegrationservices-x64.cab
                                    I cant belive I complained when VIRT IO Tools was repackaged some time ago and they changed some folders in there ISO image, while MS gives you a .cab file and not even an executable.

                                    What do you mean? What VM are you trying to install? You shouldn't need any integration tools at all for any modern operating system on a VM. They come built in and are updated via Windows Update (if running Windows OS)

                                    If you install RHEL or CentOS, you can download a Linux Integration Services .ISO if you need to. You simply run the ./install.sh file. All other modern Linux OSs already have the Hyper-V Integration built in to the kernel.

                                    This is what i am talking about:
                                    https://support.microsoft.com/en-US/help/3063109/hyper-v-integration-components-update-for-windows-virtual-machines

                                    Method 2: Microsoft Download Center

                                    The following files are available for download from the Microsoft Download Center.

                                    Operating system Update
                                    All supported x86-based versions of Windows 8.1 Download Download the package now.
                                    All supported x64-based versions of Windows 8.1 Download Download the package now.
                                    All supported x64-based versions of Windows Server 2012 R2 Download Download the package now.
                                    All supported x64-based versions of Windows Server 2012 Download Download the package now.
                                    All supported x86-based versions of Windows 7 Download Download the package now.
                                    All supported x64-based versions of Windows 7 Download Download the package now.
                                    All supported x64-based versions of Windows Server 2008 R2 Download Download the package now.

                                    Go to the download, and it is all .cab files.

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                                    • Emad RE
                                      Emad R @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                      @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                      Also it is very difficult to share files or send files, like I am used with WinSCP or SFTP protocol with Linux and KVM, the sharing module is removed in HYPER-V I tried to share but was unable to, kept giving me errors.

                                      I've not tested by I can only assume that OpenSSH works fine on Hyper-V. Have you tested it?

                                      No to be honest, I was glad when the whole thing was over and I deleted my test environment which contained of 2 Hyper-V hosts
                                      and 1 Windows 7 and 1 Centos 7

                                      I felt Hyper-V was an afterthought attempt in the virtualization world, sorry if this offends people. but if you do you seriously have not used ESXi or KVM or XEN.

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                                      • ObsolesceO
                                        Obsolesce @black3dynamite
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                                        @black3dynamite said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                        In Gen2 VM Settings, you can select an image file only

                                        And that image file can be located on a cd... you browse to it like any other image file. I think you are misunderstanding...

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                                        • DashrenderD
                                          Dashrender @Emad R
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                                          @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                          @msff-amman-itofficer said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                          Also it is very difficult to share files or send files, like I am used with WinSCP or SFTP protocol with Linux and KVM, the sharing module is removed in HYPER-V I tried to share but was unable to, kept giving me errors.

                                          I've not tested by I can only assume that OpenSSH works fine on Hyper-V. Have you tested it?

                                          No to be honest, I was glad when the whole thing was over and I deleted my test environment which contained of 2 Hyper-V hosts
                                          and 1 Windows 7 and 1 Centos 7

                                          I felt Hyper-V was an afterthought attempt in the virtualization world, sorry if this offends people. but if you do you seriously have not used ESXi or KVM or XEN.

                                          OK It's great you feel this way, but why? I'm not saying you are right or wrong, just asking why?

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @black3dynamite
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                                            @black3dynamite said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                            @tim_g said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                            @black3dynamite said in How Many Windows Server VMs Can You Run on Hyper-V SAMIT Video:

                                            Generation 2 only allows ISO

                                            The ISO can be located on a physical CD. Just browse to it when selecting an ISO for your Gen2 VM.

                                            In Gen1 VM Settings, you can select an image file or a physical CD/DVD drive.
                                            In Gen2 VM Settings, you can select an image file only.

                                            In real, good IT environments this is a non issue, you would only use ISO, because you wouldn't be touching the hardware anyway, so you wouldn't be swapping physical disks out of the server.

                                            I see this concern only being a hobby based thing, as @scottalanmiller would call it.

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