Toilets of the World
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@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
@Mike-Davis said in Toilets of the World:
I actually researched it and found out they are illegal in the US.
Where is it illegal? I have to assume this is a state level law, not federal, but please confirm.
I'm a bit surprised by this one, too. I know that certain entities must provide free toilets, like restaurants, but banning toilet businesses seems odd.
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@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
@scottalanmiller said in Toilets of the World:
@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
@scottalanmiller said in Toilets of the World:
@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
@scottalanmiller said in Toilets of the World:
@wirestyle22 said in Toilets of the World:
@matteo-nunziati An ass towel you say?
Yup. Pretty common. You need to dry off after a shower. No different. Localized shower.
Again, how do you keep that ass water off your pants while moving around to dry your ass?
Same way you keep bits of poo from dropping on your pants when using TP.
Not sure I agree. I've never used a bidet, I just imagine that water is all over the place compared too normal poo, which is very localized. Of course explosive poo is a whole different story.
There is water everywhere after a shower, too. Clean water.
yeah, because I used soap.
Plus - I'm naked in the shower - so no other clothes to get wet.Is there soap in a bidet?
IN a bidet? you don't get IN a bidet. that's like asking if there is toilet paper IN the toilet. There is soap at the sink, which is normally like, you know, six inches away.
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rational for water being better than toilet paper alone.
quite boring reading...
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@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
Where is it illegal? I have to assume this is a state level law, not federal, but please confirm.
It seems the laws may have changed. I think I looked it up in 2003 when I got back from France. I just read an article that in 2008 NY lifted the ban.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_toilet
In the United States pay toilets became much less common from the 1970s, when they came under attack in the United States, from feminists as well as the plumbing industry. California legislator March Fong Eu argued that they discriminated against women because men could use urinals for free whereas women always had to pay a dime for a toilet stall in places where payment was mandatory.[4] The American Restroom Association was a proponent of an amendment to the National Model Building Code to allow pay toilets only in addition to free toilets.[5] A campaign by the Committee to End Pay Toilets in America (CEPTIA) resulted in laws prohibiting pay toilets in cities and states. In 1973, Chicago became the first American city to enact a ban, at a time when, according to the Wall Street Journal, there were at least 50,000 units in America,[6] mostly made by the Nik-O-Lok Company.[7] CEPTIA was successful over the next few years in obtaining bans in New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, California, Florida and Ohio.[7] Lobbying was successful in other states as well, and by decade's end, pay toilets were greatly reduced in America. However, they are still in use and produced by the Nik-O-Lok company as many of these laws have since been repealed.
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Perhaps this could be a filler topic at Mangocon?
Expert's Panel: How to use the toilet and clean like a pro.
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@Tim_G said in Toilets of the World:
Perhaps this could be a filler topic at Mangocon?
Expert's Panel: How to use the toilet and clean like a pro.
The future of poo cleansing.
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There are many new toilet and bidet combinations today. It's like... hyperconverged.
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Added one of these to the toilet at home a few years ago.
There is nothing better than having a robot wash your ass for you.
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@NDC but it cant be IoT if it doesnt connect to wireless and creates vulnerability
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@NDC said in Toilets of the World:
Added one of these to the toilet at home a few years ago.
There is nothing better than having a robot wash your ass for you.
It's on our list to get.
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@NDC said in Toilets of the World:
Added one of these to the toilet at home a few years ago.
There is nothing better than having a robot wash your ass for you.
This is like a bidet but a.... watered down version.
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There is plenty of vulnerability in that area without connecting the toilet/bidet to the internet...
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@NDC said in Toilets of the World:
Added one of these to the toilet at home a few years ago.
There is nothing better than having a robot wash your ass for you.
Link?
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@Mike-Davis Hooray, femi-facism strikes again!!!
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@Tim_G https://www.biobidet.com/BB600-The-Ultimate-Bidet.htm
That's more or less the model we have. There are many other options out there though.
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@Mike-Davis said in Toilets of the World:
@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
Where is it illegal? I have to assume this is a state level law, not federal, but please confirm.
It seems the laws may have changed. I think I looked it up in 2003 when I got back from France. I just read an article that in 2008 NY lifted the ban.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_toilet
In the United States pay toilets became much less common from the 1970s, when they came under attack in the United States, from feminists as well as the plumbing industry. California legislator March Fong Eu argued that they discriminated against women because men could use urinals for free whereas women always had to pay a dime for a toilet stall in places where payment was mandatory.[4] The American Restroom Association was a proponent of an amendment to the National Model Building Code to allow pay toilets only in addition to free toilets.[5] A campaign by the Committee to End Pay Toilets in America (CEPTIA) resulted in laws prohibiting pay toilets in cities and states. In 1973, Chicago became the first American city to enact a ban, at a time when, according to the Wall Street Journal, there were at least 50,000 units in America,[6] mostly made by the Nik-O-Lok Company.[7] CEPTIA was successful over the next few years in obtaining bans in New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, California, Florida and Ohio.[7] Lobbying was successful in other states as well, and by decade's end, pay toilets were greatly reduced in America. However, they are still in use and produced by the Nik-O-Lok company as many of these laws have since been repealed.
Interesting. I wonder why urinals were free? Seems like a lost revenue opportunity of the day - many EVERYONE pay the dime.
I'm not sure if it's good or bad that we have free bathrooms basically everywhere in the US as compared to the EU (no clue about free/cost toilets in Asia).
I'd like to think that having them be paid means they are better maintained, etc, but my experience there might be skewed by my travel locations.
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@NDC said in Toilets of the World:
Added one of these to the toilet at home a few years ago.
There is nothing better than having a robot wash your ass for you.
an look at the single pane of glass to control everything!
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@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
@Mike-Davis said in Toilets of the World:
@Dashrender said in Toilets of the World:
Where is it illegal? I have to assume this is a state level law, not federal, but please confirm.
It seems the laws may have changed. I think I looked it up in 2003 when I got back from France. I just read an article that in 2008 NY lifted the ban.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_toilet
In the United States pay toilets became much less common from the 1970s, when they came under attack in the United States, from feminists as well as the plumbing industry. California legislator March Fong Eu argued that they discriminated against women because men could use urinals for free whereas women always had to pay a dime for a toilet stall in places where payment was mandatory.[4] The American Restroom Association was a proponent of an amendment to the National Model Building Code to allow pay toilets only in addition to free toilets.[5] A campaign by the Committee to End Pay Toilets in America (CEPTIA) resulted in laws prohibiting pay toilets in cities and states. In 1973, Chicago became the first American city to enact a ban, at a time when, according to the Wall Street Journal, there were at least 50,000 units in America,[6] mostly made by the Nik-O-Lok Company.[7] CEPTIA was successful over the next few years in obtaining bans in New York, New Jersey, Minnesota, California, Florida and Ohio.[7] Lobbying was successful in other states as well, and by decade's end, pay toilets were greatly reduced in America. However, they are still in use and produced by the Nik-O-Lok company as many of these laws have since been repealed.
Interesting. I wonder why urinals were free? Seems like a lost revenue opportunity of the day - many EVERYONE pay the dime.
I'm not sure if it's good or bad that we have free bathrooms basically everywhere in the US as compared to the EU (no clue about free/cost toilets in Asia).
I'd like to think that having them be paid means they are better maintained, etc, but my experience there might be skewed by my travel locations.
yeah, that seems like the actual problems. Instead of just making things be equal, they had to make them free? That's not a logical response to inequality.
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While the major push in that time period may have been led by feminist groups it is by no means an issue of just equality of the sexes.
Public sanitation and class inequality are also seriously entwined in this sort of issue.
Allowing people to shit with some modicum of dignity and keeping waste contained have some serious public value.
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@NDC said in Toilets of the World:
While the major push in that time period may have been led by feminist groups it is by no means an issue of just equality of the sexes.
Public sanitation and class inequality are also seriously entwined in this sort of issue.
Allowing people to shit with some modicum of dignity and keeping waste contained have some serious public value.
I completely agree, I'm just curious how we ended up being almost entirely free for use and the EU, out in public is mostly pay.
