How flexible are your hours?
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@minion said in How flexible are your hours?:
Normal working hours here are from 8AM to 5PM EST, however I am almost always working past 5PM, sometimes as late as 9PM.
You are willingly working for free. This is your fault. don't do it.
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@JaredBusch said in How flexible are your hours?:
You are willingly working for free. This is your fault. don't do it.
Yeah, I am out at 5PM on the dot from now on.....
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@minion said in How flexible are your hours?:
Keep in mind I am salary so no additional pay...
Salary does not mean you have to work for free. So you need to verify what your terms of hire were and do not do anything outside the terms without being compensated for it. Generally with a salary employee that does not get overtime, this comes as comptime.
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Also just because you're salaried doesn't exclude you from over time pay (at least in NY) IT related jobs excluding management are required to pay over time.
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My hours are whatever I want. Generally:
- start working around 9am or 10am and work until 1pm or so.
- Then I take lunch for an hour or so.
- Work until 3pm when the kids comes home and deal with homework and such for a bit.
- Go back to work and generally work until 6pm.
- Be with the family until they kids go to bed.
- work for an hour or two about 9pm
Generally come up a bit short of 8 hours a day. But I also do work on the weekends with maintenance windows and such.
I averaged 41.5 hours a week last year.
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@JaredBusch You also operate your own business.
So you are an exclusion to overtime laws etc.
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I generally am around 8am - 8/9pm during the week, and maybe a little on weekends... But I'm not pulling 12hour days, but I enjoy the flexibility and freedom that NTG offers.
But there is always that chance that the "All hands on deck" call will go out,.. so there is that. And Server Reboots are after 9pm generally. Clients have staff in all US Time Zones.
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@DustinB3403 said in How flexible are your hours?:
@JaredBusch You also operate your own business.
So you are an exclusion to overtime laws etc.
I get overtime. I do not operate my own business. I am a normal W2 employee with @Bundy-Associates.
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@wirestyle22 said in How flexible are your hours?:
Not flexible at all, but I don't ever work outside of 8:30 - 4:30 and I never work weekends.
Yeah, because you are a contractor, not an in house employee.
I'm curious though - Hey @scottalanmiller what kinds of benefits should wired be getting? Those of the City for whom he works 99.9% of the time, or those of his contracting company? I was always confused on where you stood on this.
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@JaredBusch said in How flexible are your hours?:
@DustinB3403 said in How flexible are your hours?:
@JaredBusch You also operate your own business.
So you are an exclusion to overtime laws etc.
I get overtime. I do not operate my own business. I am a normal W2 employee with @Bundy-Associates.
Oh I assumed you were the owner of Bundy-Accociates
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@JaredBusch said in How flexible are your hours?:
@minion said in How flexible are your hours?:
Keep in mind I am salary so no additional pay...
Salary does not mean you have to work for free. So you need to verify what your terms of hire were and do not do anything outside the terms without being compensated for it. Generally with a salary employee that does not get overtime, this comes as comptime.
Interesting - I was pretty sure someone around these parts said you're not a professional unless you're putting in 48-60 hours a week. It's the nature of being a professional. Also the reason for being exempt Salary (meaning no OT). Not saying they were right or wrong, I'm saying this to spark conversation.
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I think this part needs a fork.
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@JaredBusch said in How flexible are your hours?:
My hours are whatever I want. Generally:
- start working around 9am or 10am and work until 1pm or so.
- Then I take lunch for an hour or so.
- Work until 3pm when the kids comes home and deal with homework and such for a bit.
- Go back to work and generally work until 6pm.
- Be with the family until they kids go to bed.
- work for an hour or two about 9pm
Generally come up a bit short of 8 hours a day. But I also do work on the weekends with maintenance windows and such.
I averaged 41.5 hours a week last year.
You're also a consultant/hourly worker.
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@Dashrender said in How flexible are your hours?:
@JaredBusch said in How flexible are your hours?:
@minion said in How flexible are your hours?:
Keep in mind I am salary so no additional pay...
Salary does not mean you have to work for free. So you need to verify what your terms of hire were and do not do anything outside the terms without being compensated for it. Generally with a salary employee that does not get overtime, this comes as comptime.
Interesting - I was pretty sure someone around these parts said you're not a professional unless you're putting in 48-60 hours a week. It's the nature of being a professional. Also the reason for being exempt Salary (meaning no OT). Not saying they were right or wrong, I'm saying this to spark conversation.
Exempt Salary (in NY) in relation to IT work is now solely on management. If you are working on a server, moving equipment etc you're entitled to Overtime.
So will ES does exist the overtime overs have no bearing on it. It a matter of the work you do according to that time, according to the insane-man who would say such a thing.
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@Dashrender said in How flexible are your hours?:
@wirestyle22 said in How flexible are your hours?:
Not flexible at all, but I don't ever work outside of 8:30 - 4:30 and I never work weekends.
Yeah, because you are a contractor, not an in house employee.
I'm curious though - Hey @scottalanmiller what kinds of benefits should wired be getting? Those of the City for whom he works 99.9% of the time, or those of his contracting company? I was always confused on where you stood on this.
My company has tried to get me to stay late, I just refuse.
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@wirestyle22 said in How flexible are your hours?:
My company has tried to get me to stay late, I just refuse.
What do they say?
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I have pretty good flexible hours.
When I started this position I had a standing Friday afternoon appointment so I worked it out that my shift was
M-F 7-5
F 7-11It's normal for me to roll in around 7:10, most office staff isn't in until 7:50, but the boss gets here anytime between 6:30-8:30, seemingly at random.
I frequently work until 6 or 7 during the week.I work weekends when an upgrade requires it.
I was working last night until 12:30 AM - ug (today's going to be long)
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@Dashrender said in How flexible are your hours?:
I was working last night until 12:30 AM - ug (today's going to be long)
See, from my point of view you should have been able to get some sleep, and show up late, but that's me....
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My hours are elastic not flexible
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@wirestyle22 said in How flexible are your hours?:
@Dashrender said in How flexible are your hours?:
@wirestyle22 said in How flexible are your hours?:
Not flexible at all, but I don't ever work outside of 8:30 - 4:30 and I never work weekends.
Yeah, because you are a contractor, not an in house employee.
I'm curious though - Hey @scottalanmiller what kinds of benefits should wired be getting? Those of the City for whom he works 99.9% of the time, or those of his contracting company? I was always confused on where you stood on this.
My company has tried to get me to stay late, I just refuse.
Good thing they like you. You definitely have an interesting contract setup. But being a consultant, you definitely have some freedoms of negotiation that most normal employees don't - i.e. you supporting more users/clients/customers = you get more pay, even if you do zero more work.
For me, if we double in size, I don't get double pay, or even 10% more - I just get more work to do.
And JB - well he just gets to bill his customer more - so he says, bring it on bitch
