Managing Hyper-V
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@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@wirestyle22 said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
@JaredBusch said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
ok comany is closing. after dinner will put notes here!
it is just winrm, trusthosts and same user/password/workgroup setup. then you can fly!
This is the answer for non domain joined systems.
But most people have no need for this in the SMB as a MS AD deployment is almost always already in place.
@Dashrender opened this thread with a poor hypothetical scenario.
It is something that can apply to an ITSP or consultant, but it is completely not something that will apply to the vast majority of deployments.
They asked for non ad joined management...
Even so, Jared is right.
There ARE cases where you need or want to avoid AD joining. But I think that I agree, normally AD joining will be best and probably should happen here.
Don't know. I miss ad for my company management. But honestly I see hypervisors as a building block like vlans and so. Something before services like the AD. Don't know if I would join the hv to the ad. Word this differently: it was xen would you put it under domain via samba in dom0?
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@dbeato said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller 5nine has changed recently on this and no more free version...
Yes, we've been talking about that a lot
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@scottalanmiller I realized that after my post..
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@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
I don't understand what the issue is here. Install and configure a Hyper-V Host... then connect to it via Hyper-V Manager, FCM, or PowerShell. None of the Windows GUI tools do anything that you cannot do with PowerShell. In fact it's the other way around. You can do way more to Hyper-V with PowerShell than from any tool. Just learn the commands and move on. They are so easy.
That allows you to manage the hypervisor.. what about getting console access to the VMs?
Hyper-V Manager gives you console access to the VMs.
Is that a PowerShell tool? How do you get the console via PowerShell?
Maybe I missed some posts and am not on track of what was meant by "console access to the VMs".
Can you clarify what is meant by that? For example, console access to a Windows Server 2016 VM running on Hyper-V Server 2016?
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@Tim_G yes the virtual console
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@dbeato said in Managing Hyper-V:
There is also this, https://corefig.codeplex.com/
Only major feature being sought is the remote console redirect from the VMs. Otherwise PowerShell does everything.
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@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
I don't understand what the issue is here. Install and configure a Hyper-V Host... then connect to it via Hyper-V Manager, FCM, or PowerShell. None of the Windows GUI tools do anything that you cannot do with PowerShell. In fact it's the other way around. You can do way more to Hyper-V with PowerShell than from any tool. Just learn the commands and move on. They are so easy.
That allows you to manage the hypervisor.. what about getting console access to the VMs?
Hyper-V Manager gives you console access to the VMs.
Is that a PowerShell tool? How do you get the console via PowerShell?
Maybe I missed some posts and am not on track of what was meant by "console access to the VMs".
Can you clarify what is meant by that? For example, console access to a Windows Server 2016 VM running on Hyper-V Server 2016?
How do you see the VM's console. The output that on Windows by default goes to the VGA adapter. The ability to see the system boot up before services come online or to connect before there is networking within the VM. Not the ability to see hyper-v, no one needs that. but to see the VMs at the console, not RDP, level.
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@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
For example, console access to a Windows Server 2016 VM running on Hyper-V Server 2016?
Right, the console of the VM, not of the host. We know how to see the host, and how to manage Hyper-V from PowerShell. but if you pop in an ISO and fire it up to install, how do you interact with it as with Windows you need a GUI at this point and with Linux you need a TTY redirect.
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@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
I don't understand what the issue is here. Install and configure a Hyper-V Host... then connect to it via Hyper-V Manager, FCM, or PowerShell. None of the Windows GUI tools do anything that you cannot do with PowerShell. In fact it's the other way around. You can do way more to Hyper-V with PowerShell than from any tool. Just learn the commands and move on. They are so easy.
That allows you to manage the hypervisor.. what about getting console access to the VMs?
Hyper-V Manager gives you console access to the VMs.
Is that a PowerShell tool? How do you get the console via PowerShell?
Maybe I missed some posts and am not on track of what was meant by "console access to the VMs".
Can you clarify what is meant by that? For example, console access to a Windows Server 2016 VM running on Hyper-V Server 2016?
How do you see the VM's console. The output that on Windows by default goes to the VGA adapter. The ability to see the system boot up before services come online or to connect before there is networking within the VM. Not the ability to see hyper-v, no one needs that. but to see the VMs at the console, not RDP, level.
In Hyper-V Manager... right-click -> connect? Or double-click on the VM, I think that brings up the console too.
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@Tim_G yes but @scottalanmiller was discussing the binding caused by mmc: new hyperv? New windows workstation...
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@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
ok comany is closing. after dinner will put notes here!
For the weekend?
Yep!
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@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G yes but @scottalanmiller was discussing the binding caused by mmc: new hypeev? New windows workstation...
I'm gonna have to go back and read all 95 posts.
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@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@matteo-nunziati said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G yes but @scottalanmiller was discussing the binding caused by mmc: new hypeev? New windows workstation...
I'm gonna have to go back and read all 95 posts.
Nope! 95% is @scottalanmiller just read the last one
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@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
I don't understand what the issue is here. Install and configure a Hyper-V Host... then connect to it via Hyper-V Manager, FCM, or PowerShell. None of the Windows GUI tools do anything that you cannot do with PowerShell. In fact it's the other way around. You can do way more to Hyper-V with PowerShell than from any tool. Just learn the commands and move on. They are so easy.
That allows you to manage the hypervisor.. what about getting console access to the VMs?
Hyper-V Manager gives you console access to the VMs.
Is that a PowerShell tool? How do you get the console via PowerShell?
Maybe I missed some posts and am not on track of what was meant by "console access to the VMs".
Can you clarify what is meant by that? For example, console access to a Windows Server 2016 VM running on Hyper-V Server 2016?
How do you see the VM's console. The output that on Windows by default goes to the VGA adapter. The ability to see the system boot up before services come online or to connect before there is networking within the VM. Not the ability to see hyper-v, no one needs that. but to see the VMs at the console, not RDP, level.
In Hyper-V Manager... right-click -> connect? Or double-click on the VM, I think that brings up the console too.
Right, we are asking how to do this WITHOUT those tools. No Windows workstation, no Windows 10. Just assume a non-domain Windows 8 box without anything on it. What can you do to connect to an arbitrary Hyper-V machine and get to a VM's console?
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@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Dashrender said in Managing Hyper-V:
@Tim_G said in Managing Hyper-V:
I don't understand what the issue is here. Install and configure a Hyper-V Host... then connect to it via Hyper-V Manager, FCM, or PowerShell. None of the Windows GUI tools do anything that you cannot do with PowerShell. In fact it's the other way around. You can do way more to Hyper-V with PowerShell than from any tool. Just learn the commands and move on. They are so easy.
That allows you to manage the hypervisor.. what about getting console access to the VMs?
Hyper-V Manager gives you console access to the VMs.
Is that a PowerShell tool? How do you get the console via PowerShell?
Maybe I missed some posts and am not on track of what was meant by "console access to the VMs".
Can you clarify what is meant by that? For example, console access to a Windows Server 2016 VM running on Hyper-V Server 2016?
How do you see the VM's console. The output that on Windows by default goes to the VGA adapter. The ability to see the system boot up before services come online or to connect before there is networking within the VM. Not the ability to see hyper-v, no one needs that. but to see the VMs at the console, not RDP, level.
In Hyper-V Manager... right-click -> connect? Or double-click on the VM, I think that brings up the console too.
Didn't we determine both that this needs to be Windows 10 AND domain joined? Was it just one or the other? Ideally I think an answer with no Windows at all is sought, but freedom of Windows choices is at least better.
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@scottalanmiller You need a Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 computer, and like I said on my post before you can go to the c$ of that HyperV enter the username and password and then connect using the Hyperv console.
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@dbeato said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller You need a Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 computer, and like I said on my post before you can go to the c$ of that HyperV enter the username and password and then connect using the Hyperv console.
Okay, having him try that. What about if you are not on a LAN and not willing to expose SMB over the WAN?
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@dbeato said in Managing Hyper-V:
@scottalanmiller You need a Windows 8.1 or Windows 10 computer, and like I said on my post before you can go to the c$ of that HyperV enter the username and password and then connect using the Hyperv console.
WHAT?!
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@scottalanmiller Then it will be in the same domain.
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The third part talks about how to connect to non domain joined HyperV.
