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    • NerdyDadN
      NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

      @NerdyDad said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

      @John-Nicholson said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

      @NerdyDad said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

      @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

      @NerdyDad said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

      There isn't a Veeam cloud solution yet (I'm sure there will probably be one eventually). But what is not to say that you couldn't have a free Veeam server in Vultr or something?

      There is.

      Link?

      https://www.veeam.com/find-a-veeam-cloud-provider.html

      They also are introducing native Cloud Archiving target support (announced at VeeeamOn).
      Also you can use Starwinds VTL to Cloud function as another option.

      But that is for a repository only. I already have one of those with a private cloud hosted by my colocation. I'm talking about a Veeam server that manages backups off prem, such as Vultr or AWS or Azure. Something of that nature.

      You just want Veeam installed on a VM?

      I was just curious if Veeam offered something like that. Not that I would actually deploy and use it.

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      • matteo nunziatiM
        matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
        last edited by matteo nunziati

        @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

        This is great for long distance (over the WAN), but when local, I know of no case where you'd use this. You'd always use Starwind instead. Vastly more powerful, same price. Free.

        well, unless starwind was not free when I've set up this stuff months ago. they've missed my deadline for a few weeks.
        Also, does starwind work on different storages without perf. loss? e.g. ssd/sas raid 10 on main server vs. ORB10 on sata 7.2k drives on replica server (used as failover not HA).

        Also, yes I'm going to move the stuff offsite. But previous question, while offtopic, still holds.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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          @matteo-nunziati said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

          @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

          well, unless starwind was not free when I've set up this stuff months ago. they've missed my deadline for a few weeks.

          They've been unofficially free for a long time and always free on two nodes, I think. Definitely was available.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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            @NerdyDad said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

            @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

            @NerdyDad said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

            @John-Nicholson said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

            @NerdyDad said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

            @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

            @NerdyDad said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

            There isn't a Veeam cloud solution yet (I'm sure there will probably be one eventually). But what is not to say that you couldn't have a free Veeam server in Vultr or something?

            There is.

            Link?

            https://www.veeam.com/find-a-veeam-cloud-provider.html

            They also are introducing native Cloud Archiving target support (announced at VeeeamOn).
            Also you can use Starwinds VTL to Cloud function as another option.

            But that is for a repository only. I already have one of those with a private cloud hosted by my colocation. I'm talking about a Veeam server that manages backups off prem, such as Vultr or AWS or Azure. Something of that nature.

            You just want Veeam installed on a VM?

            I was just curious if Veeam offered something like that. Not that I would actually deploy and use it.

            But it is just Veeam on a VM... so since Veeam is just software, they've always offered this.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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              @matteo-nunziati said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

              Also, does starwind work on different storages without perf. loss? e.g. ssd/sas raid 10 on main server vs. ORB10 on sata 7.2k drives on replica server (used as failover not HA).

              It would turn you into HA for one thing, so that's a big bonus. The only time you'd take a performance hit would be if you have cache misses and you need to wait for write commits. Not sure if you can disable the commit to improve the speed, but that would add some risk. But with the cache, it might be overall faster, rather than slower, depending on cache and workload.

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              • matteo nunziatiM
                matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                They've been unofficially free for a long time and always free on two nodes, I think. Definitely was available.

                bloody hell!

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @matteo nunziati
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                  @matteo-nunziati said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                  They've been unofficially free for a long time and always free on two nodes, I think. Definitely was available.

                  bloody hell!

                  Yeah, you had to know to ask. But they always gave out free licenses on request 🙂

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                  • matteo nunziatiM
                    matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
                    last edited by matteo nunziati

                    @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                    @matteo-nunziati said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                    Also, does starwind work on different storages without perf. loss? e.g. ssd/sas raid 10 on main server vs. ORB10 on sata 7.2k drives on replica server (used as failover not HA).

                    It would turn you into HA for one thing, so that's a big bonus. The only time you'd take a performance hit would be if you have cache misses and you need to wait for write commits. Not sure if you can disable the commit to improve the speed, but that would add some risk. But with the cache, it might be overall faster, rather than slower, depending on cache and workload.

                    you mean their own in RAM cache or HW RAID controller cache? or any other RAM cache?

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                    • matteo nunziatiM
                      matteo nunziati @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by matteo nunziati

                      @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                      @matteo-nunziati said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                      well, unless starwind was not free when I've set up this stuff months ago. they've missed my deadline for a few weeks.

                      They've been unofficially free for a long time and always free on two nodes, I think. Definitely was available.

                      officially they were free on 2 node SDS, not hyperconverged [1]. I looked at the site to discover they were officially free if you had a couple of spare servers for SDS. the HC solution has been freed just later.

                      there was a spiceworks licence but I didn't fit specs.

                      just discarded them due to official website info 😕

                      [1] HC or something similar. anyway: HA on 2 nodes with compute + storage on both nodes.

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                      • DashrenderD
                        Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                        @matteo-nunziati said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                        @scottalanmiller said in Zertø Virtual Replication:

                        They've been unofficially free for a long time and always free on two nodes, I think. Definitely was available.

                        bloody hell!

                        Yeah, you had to know to ask. But they always gave out free licenses on request 🙂

                        They told SW people it was free for two nodes. I know they announced it at ML con last year too.

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                        • matteo nunziatiM
                          matteo nunziati @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch I also didn't mind about zerto at the time because my resellers (asked a couple) offered really high prices - but don't remember the specific amount.

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