SSO - What Are You Using and Why?
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Hello everyone.
I am considering SSO for our SMB. We currently have about 75 employees with AD accounts. We have Adobe Acrobat Standard/Pro/CreativeCloud subscriptions, Office 365 Pro Plus (I hope to move our e-mail services here soon) and will be adding some other services sooner or later.
Obviously, compatibility/support is a concern but I would like to see what others are using.
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So Adobe is the only thing outside of the MS suite to integrate?
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@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
So Adobe is the only thing outside of the MS suite to integrate?
We were also looking at SSO for some EDI services (TrueCommerce, SPS Commerce, etc.) but I I need to do more research for them. Also, most likely NextCloud, hosted with Vultr or similar.
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SSO in that sense is more of a convenience than anything else. And that's only if you use the online services in addition to the installed software (Office Suite). Is it worth spending the money and time to set up more servers for ADFS (and proxy), ADCS, etc?
What would be the benefit in your case?
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Currently, I am using AADConnect (formerly dirsync) to sync users' login info for license activation and onedrive. The caveat is that because our local AD domain is .local (inherited this configuration), I had to add a UPN suffix to sync.
True SSO would become more beneficial when moving our mail services to O365.
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Also, Amazon Vendor Central US and CA versions.
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@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
Currently, I am using AADConnect (formerly dirsync) to sync users' login info for license activation and onedrive. The caveat is that because our local AD domain is .local (inherited this configuration), I had to add a UPN suffix to sync.
True SSO would become more beneficial when moving our mail services to O365.
Have you considered dropping AD and moving to Azure AD instead? Basically flipping it and syncing in, rather than syncing out?
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@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
Currently, I am using AADConnect (formerly dirsync) to sync users' login info for license activation and onedrive. The caveat is that because our local AD domain is .local (inherited this configuration), I had to add a UPN suffix to sync.
True SSO would become more beneficial when moving our mail services to O365.
Have you considered dropping AD and moving to Azure AD instead? Basically flipping it and syncing in, rather than syncing out?
I have not considered that. Although, I am concerned about Azure's past issues with its reliability/availability.
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@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
I have not considered that. Although, I am concerned about the past issues with its reliability/availability.
How often have you lost Azure AD?
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@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
I have not considered that. Although, I am concerned about the past issues with its reliability/availability.
How often have you lost Azure AD?
I haven't. I meant Azure in general.
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@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
I have not considered that. Although, I am concerned about the past issues with its reliability/availability.
How often have you lost Azure AD?
I haven't. I meant Azure in general.
Not the same thing
Azure is pretty fragile. Azure AD is not. -
@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
I have not considered that. Although, I am concerned about the past issues with its reliability/availability.
How often have you lost Azure AD?
I haven't. I meant Azure in general.
Not the same thing
Azure is pretty fragile. Azure AD is not.That is good to know. I should look at to see the design considerations/topology.
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@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
Currently, I am using AADConnect (formerly dirsync) to sync users' login info for license activation and onedrive. The caveat is that because our local AD domain is .local (inherited this configuration), I had to add a UPN suffix to sync.
True SSO would become more beneficial when moving our mail services to O365.
I AADConnect / PW Sync .locals to O365. Never any issues with that.
What problems are you running into?
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@Tim_G I don't have issues with it, per se, it is a problem with having the .local and using the extra public domain so that it effectively turns the office 365 activation/portal from someone's actual email address, [email protected] to [email protected] but using the same password. People rarely remember the difference when logging in to O365. I can't blame them.
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@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@Tim_G I don't have issues with it, per se, it is a problem with having the .local and using the extra public domain so that it effectively turns the office 365 activation/portal from someone's actual email address, [email protected] to [email protected] but using the same password. People rarely remember the difference when logging in to O365. I can't blame them.
I see. Yeah if the AD login, domain, AND email address are all completely different... I can see the user confusion.
I was thinking it was something like: [email protected] vs [email protected].
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@Tim_G Unfortunately, it won't allow a .local because it isn't a public TLD.
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@scottalanmiller - I can't seem to find how I would implement the Azure AD outside-in approach. I see tons of stuff on how I have already installed AADConnect and sync out.
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@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@scottalanmiller - I can't seem to find how I would implement the Azure AD outside-in approach. I see tons of stuff on how I have already installed AADConnect and sync out.
You just... use it. There's nothing to know. Shut down AD, use Azure AD.
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@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@scottalanmiller - I can't seem to find how I would implement the Azure AD outside-in approach. I see tons of stuff on how I have already installed AADConnect and sync out.
You just... use it. There's nothing to know. Shut down AD, use Azure AD.
There has to be more to it. Does it migrate the existing AD domain and all the users/computers accounts? What about my on-prem Exchange 2010 server?
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@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@scottalanmiller said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@wrx7m said in SSO - What Are You Using and Why?:
@scottalanmiller - I can't seem to find how I would implement the Azure AD outside-in approach. I see tons of stuff on how I have already installed AADConnect and sync out.
You just... use it. There's nothing to know. Shut down AD, use Azure AD.
There has to be more to it. Does it migrate the existing AD domain and all the users/computers accounts? What about my on-prem Exchange 2010 server?
You move to modern email of course. You don't use Azure AD with old on prem Exchange. And no, it does not migrate, it's a new thing. You'd set it up fresh in most cases. It's not AD, you'll likely make new choices.
