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    Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please

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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller
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      You mean when they send from MyEmma to your own domain?

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      • NetworkNerdN
        NetworkNerd @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

        You mean when they send from MyEmma to your own domain?

        Correct.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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          @NetworkNerd said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

          @scottalanmiller said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

          You mean when they send from MyEmma to your own domain?

          Correct.

          Then the SPF record isn't used, it's spoofed. It's that simple 🙂

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          • scottalanmillerS
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            Remember that your email server believes that IT is the email server for your domain. Then it gets email from someone else claiming to be it. SPF records be darned, it knows that it didn't just send that message.

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            • NetworkNerdN
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              Would adding users with internal e-mail addresses to Safe Senders allow the messages to come through the filter to internal recipients as expected? That's kind of like an individualized whitelist in the O365 world, right?

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @NetworkNerd
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                @NetworkNerd said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                Would adding users with internal e-mail addresses to Safe Senders allow the messages to come through the filter to internal recipients as expected? That's kind of like an individualized whitelist in the O365 world, right?

                I would expect so, yes.

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                • Reid CooperR
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                  That makes sense, the email is coming as if it was from that server because it believes that it itself is the master of the domain.

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                  • KellyK
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                    You can also create a transport rule that will bypass all the spam filtering heuristics and whatnot.

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                    • Mike DavisM
                      Mike Davis @NetworkNerd
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                      @NetworkNerd said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                      Would adding users with internal e-mail addresses to Safe Senders allow the messages to come through the filter to internal recipients as expected? That's kind of like an individualized whitelist in the O365 world, right?

                      I wouldn't do this. A lot of spammers put the from and to address the same for this reason. If you whitelist all your internal addresses, I would think you would get a lot of spam.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
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                        @Kelly said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                        You can also create a transport rule that will bypass all the spam filtering heuristics and whatnot.

                        Nothing gets around 100% of the rules from what I was reading on this two years ago.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
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                          I would need to see the ehaders, but I send email from a postfix relay with a valid return on my Office 365 server to other Office 365 users all the time and nothing is junked.

                          The only thing I did was to add the WAN IP of the location with the Postfix server as a new connector trusted by IP.

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                          • NetworkNerdN
                            NetworkNerd @Mike Davis
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                            @Mike-Davis said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                            @NetworkNerd said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                            Would adding users with internal e-mail addresses to Safe Senders allow the messages to come through the filter to internal recipients as expected? That's kind of like an individualized whitelist in the O365 world, right?

                            I wouldn't do this. A lot of spammers put the from and to address the same for this reason. If you whitelist all your internal addresses, I would think you would get a lot of spam.

                            I agree this is not a good way to go and that the chances for spam go way up. In this case we're talking about 10 different internal addresses.

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                            • NashBrydgesN
                              NashBrydges @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                              I would need to see the ehaders, but I send email from a postfix relay with a valid return on my Office 365 server to other Office 365 users all the time and nothing is junked.

                              The only thing I did was to add the WAN IP of the location with the Postfix server as a new connector trusted by IP.

                              ^^^ This ^^^ I did that for postfix and haven't had any spam flagging issues.

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                              • NetworkNerdN
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                                @JaredBusch said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                                I would need to see the ehaders, but I send email from a postfix relay with a valid return on my Office 365 server to other Office 365 users all the time and nothing is junked.

                                The only thing I did was to add the WAN IP of the location with the Postfix server as a new connector trusted by IP.

                                Very similar to what you mention here, I think this is it - https://support.e2ma.net/Resource_Center/Account_how-to/how-to-whitelist-emma.

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                                • JaredBuschJ
                                  JaredBusch @NetworkNerd
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                                  @NetworkNerd said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                                  @JaredBusch said in Marketing Campaign E-mail and Office365 - Check My Logic, Please:

                                  I would need to see the ehaders, but I send email from a postfix relay with a valid return on my Office 365 server to other Office 365 users all the time and nothing is junked.

                                  The only thing I did was to add the WAN IP of the location with the Postfix server as a new connector trusted by IP.

                                  Very similar to what you mention here, I think this is it - https://support.e2ma.net/Resource_Center/Account_how-to/how-to-whitelist-emma.

                                  Not exactly. That is whitelisting entire IP blocks.

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