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    • Reid CooperR
      Reid Cooper
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      Normally you want audio over HDMI because it's "all one signal". Otherwise you have audio going one place and video going another. You can do it, but a lot of devices get confused since your HDMI has audio but you are trying to use something else for audio too.

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      • RojoLocoR
        RojoLoco @guyinpv
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        @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

        @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

        @guyinpv You can plug the PC directly into the TV via HDMI (you'll want to make sure your video card also sends sound via the HDMI...not all do) but the noise is very quickly going to become annoying. It's hard to beat the silent Roku. Not to mention the Roku can take some stream and direct play them, relieving the stress from your PC for any transcoding work.

        Good point about audio. Is this a requirement? I mean, can't I just run the audio out on the PC over to an audio input jack on the TV? Or is audio-over-HDMI a necessary standard for TVs?
        My TV is about 6 or 7 years old plasma 40". It has HDMI and even USB ports but not a "smart" TV by any means.

        You want HDMI audio because it will carry multi-channel surround formats, PC audio outs are 2 ch stereo (unless it is an optical jack, but those are still not as good as HDMI).

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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          @RojoLoco said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

          @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

          @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

          @guyinpv You can plug the PC directly into the TV via HDMI (you'll want to make sure your video card also sends sound via the HDMI...not all do) but the noise is very quickly going to become annoying. It's hard to beat the silent Roku. Not to mention the Roku can take some stream and direct play them, relieving the stress from your PC for any transcoding work.

          Good point about audio. Is this a requirement? I mean, can't I just run the audio out on the PC over to an audio input jack on the TV? Or is audio-over-HDMI a necessary standard for TVs?
          My TV is about 6 or 7 years old plasma 40". It has HDMI and even USB ports but not a "smart" TV by any means.

          You want HDMI audio because it will carry multi-channel surround formats, PC audio outs are 2 ch stereo (unless it is an optical jack, but those are still not as good as HDMI).

          Ah TOSLINK. Who even remembers that stuff 🙂 It'll go down as a memory, much like Toshiba itself.

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

            @RojoLoco said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

            @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

            @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

            @guyinpv You can plug the PC directly into the TV via HDMI (you'll want to make sure your video card also sends sound via the HDMI...not all do) but the noise is very quickly going to become annoying. It's hard to beat the silent Roku. Not to mention the Roku can take some stream and direct play them, relieving the stress from your PC for any transcoding work.

            Good point about audio. Is this a requirement? I mean, can't I just run the audio out on the PC over to an audio input jack on the TV? Or is audio-over-HDMI a necessary standard for TVs?
            My TV is about 6 or 7 years old plasma 40". It has HDMI and even USB ports but not a "smart" TV by any means.

            You want HDMI audio because it will carry multi-channel surround formats, PC audio outs are 2 ch stereo (unless it is an optical jack, but those are still not as good as HDMI).

            Ah TOSLINK. Who even remembers that stuff 🙂 It'll go down as a memory, much like Toshiba itself.

            I do. TOSLINK was at least better than analog for surround sound setups, but horrible according to any audiophile.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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              @travisdh1 said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

              @scottalanmiller said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

              @RojoLoco said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

              @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

              @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

              @guyinpv You can plug the PC directly into the TV via HDMI (you'll want to make sure your video card also sends sound via the HDMI...not all do) but the noise is very quickly going to become annoying. It's hard to beat the silent Roku. Not to mention the Roku can take some stream and direct play them, relieving the stress from your PC for any transcoding work.

              Good point about audio. Is this a requirement? I mean, can't I just run the audio out on the PC over to an audio input jack on the TV? Or is audio-over-HDMI a necessary standard for TVs?
              My TV is about 6 or 7 years old plasma 40". It has HDMI and even USB ports but not a "smart" TV by any means.

              You want HDMI audio because it will carry multi-channel surround formats, PC audio outs are 2 ch stereo (unless it is an optical jack, but those are still not as good as HDMI).

              Ah TOSLINK. Who even remembers that stuff 🙂 It'll go down as a memory, much like Toshiba itself.

              I do. TOSLINK was at least better than analog for surround sound setups, but horrible according to any audiophile.

              That's because audiophiles used digital already that was superior. So TOSLINK was a step backwards compared to what existed at the time for good audio, which was not analogue. So for audiophiles would could hear the new jitter, due to TOSLINK lacking a timing signal that traditional copper based digital had, saw it as an expensive way to lose audio quality.

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              • NashBrydgesN
                NashBrydges @guyinpv
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                @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                @guyinpv You can plug the PC directly into the TV via HDMI (you'll want to make sure your video card also sends sound via the HDMI...not all do) but the noise is very quickly going to become annoying. It's hard to beat the silent Roku. Not to mention the Roku can take some stream and direct play them, relieving the stress from your PC for any transcoding work.

                Good point about audio. Is this a requirement? I mean, can't I just run the audio out on the PC over to an audio input jack on the TV? Or is audio-over-HDMI a necessary standard for TVs?
                My TV is about 6 or 7 years old plasma 40". It has HDMI and even USB ports but not a "smart" TV by any means.

                It's up to you how you get audio "out"

                My current setup runs the HDMI output from Roku to the receiver which handles all of the multi-channel audio (DTS, DTS-HD, DTS-MA, AC3...etc) and the receiver has a HDMI out that goes to the TV. So the receiver runs audio through the surround system and the TV on gets the video signal.

                If you don't have a receiver in place but only a TV, if your video card handles audio via HDMI then you're good to go with the tv playing back both video and audio. If your video card does NOT support audio out via the HDMI then you'll probably have to resort to using some other method like component video + audio jacks from your video card and PC to your TV. But you'll lose a lot of quality that way.

                You'll want to know what your Plex PC can manage for outputs and determine whether you even want to go down that road. But for the cost of a Roku these days, I'd spring for that and be done with it. Much, much simpler and quieter.

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                • guyinpvG
                  guyinpv @NashBrydges
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                  @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                  You'll want to know what your Plex PC can manage for outputs and determine whether you even want to go down that road. But for the cost of a Roku these days, I'd spring for that and be done with it. Much, much simpler and quieter.

                  You're suggesting the Roku completely replaces building a Plex box. How is that? I still have to store all my files somewhere and I'm trying to not have to use my main workstation. Is Roku's media management features as good as Plex? Does it scan for meta data and find previews and cover art and all that stuff?

                  I guess I'm not see how Roku alone is a complete replacement for Plex. I thought Roku just connects to various streaming services? Is it also a media management app like Plex? 😕

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                  • NashBrydgesN
                    NashBrydges @guyinpv
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                    @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                    @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                    You'll want to know what your Plex PC can manage for outputs and determine whether you even want to go down that road. But for the cost of a Roku these days, I'd spring for that and be done with it. Much, much simpler and quieter.

                    You're suggesting the Roku completely replaces building a Plex box. How is that? I still have to store all my files somewhere and I'm trying to not have to use my main workstation. Is Roku's media management features as good as Plex? Does it scan for meta data and find previews and cover art and all that stuff?

                    I guess I'm not see how Roku alone is a complete replacement for Plex. I thought Roku just connects to various streaming services? Is it also a media management app like Plex? 😕

                    No, not at all, it can't. I'm suggesting that if your video card isn't up to snuff, relegate the Plex PC to just Plex Server function and use the Roku as your player.

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                    • wirestyle22W
                      wirestyle22 @guyinpv
                      last edited by wirestyle22

                      @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                      @NashBrydges said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                      @guyinpv You can plug the PC directly into the TV via HDMI (you'll want to make sure your video card also sends sound via the HDMI...not all do) but the noise is very quickly going to become annoying. It's hard to beat the silent Roku. Not to mention the Roku can take some stream and direct play them, relieving the stress from your PC for any transcoding work.

                      Good point about audio. Is this a requirement? I mean, can't I just run the audio out on the PC over to an audio input jack on the TV? Or is audio-over-HDMI a necessary standard for TVs?
                      My TV is about 6 or 7 years old plasma 40". It has HDMI and even USB ports but not a "smart" TV by any means.

                      For $89 you avoid this headache and get smart TV functionality out of it

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                      • guyinpvG
                        guyinpv
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                        I'm not saying I won't get a Roku. It just doesn't seem clear whether it's necessary. This project is only for funzies to play with setting up a media box.
                        If the video card isn't up to snuff, I'd have to buy one anyway, so I'd probably put that money toward the Roku then and not a video card.

                        I was just hoping to build this box with an old tower and not have to buy anything right away.

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                        • wirestyle22W
                          wirestyle22 @guyinpv
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                          @guyinpv said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                          I'm not saying I won't get a Roku. It just doesn't seem clear whether it's necessary. This project is only for funzies to play with setting up a media box.
                          If the video card isn't up to snuff, I'd have to buy one anyway, so I'd probably put that money toward the Roku then and not a video card.

                          I was just hoping to build this box with an old tower and not have to buy anything right away.

                          In this case I'd file this one under "the right kind of easy" but I hear what you're saying. Do you scotty p

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                          • M
                            marcinozga
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                            http://www.openflixr.com/

                            I haven't tried it personally but I have major part of standalone packages they use running on my file server at home. This gives you pre-built VM, you just need a host to deploy it to. So another vote for Plex here.

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                            • wirestyle22W
                              wirestyle22 @marcinozga
                              last edited by wirestyle22

                              @marcinozga said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                              http://www.openflixr.com/

                              I haven't tried it personally but I have major part of standalone packages they use running on my file server at home. This gives you pre-built VM, you just need a host to deploy it to. So another vote for Plex here.

                              I have never tried that. Interesting.

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                              • guyinpvG
                                guyinpv
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                                "CouchPotato (CP) is an automatic NZB and torrent downloader. You can keep a "movies I want"-list and it will search for NZBs/torrents of these movies every X hours. Once a movie is found, it will send it to SABnzbd or download the torrent to a specified directory."

                                That doesn't sound illegal at all.

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                                • DominicaD
                                  Dominica
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                                  Anyone have Netflix working on Kodi yet?

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                                  • RojoLocoR
                                    RojoLoco @Dominica
                                    last edited by

                                    @Dominica said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                                    Anyone have Netflix working on Kodi yet?

                                    Didn't know they had a netflix add on. I know what I'm doing tonight. I'll report my findings later.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
                                      last edited by

                                      @RojoLoco said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                                      @Dominica said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                                      Anyone have Netflix working on Kodi yet?

                                      Didn't know they had a netflix add on. I know what I'm doing tonight. I'll report my findings later.

                                      What do you have Kodi on? Linux or Android?

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                                      • RojoLocoR
                                        RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
                                        last edited by

                                        @scottalanmiller said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                                        @RojoLoco said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                                        @Dominica said in What's the current "standard" for a media server setup these days?:

                                        Anyone have Netflix working on Kodi yet?

                                        Didn't know they had a netflix add on. I know what I'm doing tonight. I'll report my findings later.

                                        What do you have Kodi on? Linux or Android?

                                        Android and windows, mostly use windows. The setup of addons in android is way too tedious, too much typing with the tiny Fire stick remote.

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                                        • RojoLocoR
                                          RojoLoco
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                                          Found this how to (windows/android/RasPi)

                                          https://www.ivacy.com/blog/how-to-install-kodi-netlfix-addon/

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                                          • RojoLocoR
                                            RojoLoco
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                                            Nothing to report yet on the Kodi Netflix add on, had to re-re-re-re-record lead vocals last night.

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