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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @marcinozga
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      @marcinozga said in Salary:

      @stess said in Salary:

      Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

      Don't stress over certs or degree. All are useless and quickly obsolete, perhaps only Redhat has a value.

      Not even that one. Six months working in Linux you earn so much more than that cert gets you. Only job that I know that really cares about that cert only pays $35K. I've never run into Linux work higher pay than that that was really concerned with the cert.

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        stess @scottalanmiller
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        @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

        @stess said in Salary:

        Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

        No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

        In your case I guess experience top all certs.

        For people who just started certs is for stepping stone for an interview. I'm learning a lot with Win2012R2 servers and such.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @stess
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          @stess said in Salary:

          @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

          @stess said in Salary:

          Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

          No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

          In your case I guess experience top all certs.

          For people who just started certs is for stepping stone for an interview. I'm learning a lot with Win2012R2 servers and such.

          I had to get through that barrier too 😉 Although I did list certs back then, but I know for a fact none of them got me my jobs since I know (and still know) the guy that hired me at my first "real" job after I had certs and he never asked about them and every job since then was unrelated to my certs and/or they were not listed.

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          • momurdaM
            momurda
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            I am not close either. But i also dont work for Amazon or Microsoft, the two largest IT employers in WA, and who give money away like it was going out of style.

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            • RojoLocoR
              RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

              @stess said in Salary:

              Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

              No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

              You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

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              • IRJI
                IRJ @stess
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                @stess said in Salary:

                Some day I didn't even get to see my beloved desk at all.. and on my knees all day :'(.

                I am scared to ask.....

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @momurda
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                  @momurda said in Salary:

                  I am not close either. But i also dont work for Amazon or Microsoft, the two largest IT employers in WA, and who give money away like it was going out of style.

                  Maybe you should then! 🙂 Giving away money sounds awesome.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                    @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                    @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                    @stess said in Salary:

                    Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

                    No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

                    You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

                    How many people do you see trying it, though?

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                      stess @IRJ
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                      @IRJ said in Salary:

                      @stess said in Salary:

                      Some day I didn't even get to see my beloved desk at all.. and on my knees all day :'(.

                      I am scared to ask.....

                      LOL!!! Don't put it out of context like that.
                      ps. I laughed so loud my manager just looks at me like "Are you alright?"

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                      • IRJI
                        IRJ
                        last edited by

                        P.S. Are you guys comparing your exact position or just the IT median for your state?

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                        • RojoLocoR
                          RojoLoco @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                          @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                          @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                          @stess said in Salary:

                          Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

                          No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

                          You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

                          How many people do you see trying it, though?

                          All I'm saying is that for the uncertified, undegreed masses without the notoriety attached to your name, it's more of a struggle than you've encountered in 2 decades.

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                          • IRJI
                            IRJ
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                            No degree here. I think at this point, there isn't much an incentive for me to get one.

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                              stess @IRJ
                              last edited by

                              @IRJ said in Salary:

                              P.S. Are you guys comparing your exact position or just the IT median for your state?

                              median.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @IRJ
                                last edited by

                                @IRJ said in Salary:

                                P.S. Are you guys comparing your exact position or just the IT median for your state?

                                I did both, but they were about the same so it didn't really matter.

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                                • IRJI
                                  IRJ
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                                  The median for my state is lower than the my position pay for my state. Luckily I slightly exceed the median for my position.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @RojoLoco
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                                    @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                                    @RojoLoco said in Salary:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Salary:

                                    @stess said in Salary:

                                    Still... not bad for someone without high level certs (CCNA, MS, redhat, etc) and no degree.

                                    No Cisco or RH certs here. I DO have old MS certs, but no certs on my resume. And no degree... well none on my resume. So for all intents and purposes, no certs and no degrees.

                                    You do realize that you are the exception and not the rule, right?

                                    How many people do you see trying it, though?

                                    All I'm saying is that for the uncertified, undegreed masses without the notoriety attached to your name, it's more of a struggle than you've encountered in 2 decades.

                                    But I did all of my career without the notoriety. So that isn't a factor. Sure now, things are different. But jump from six figures to seven was because of my name. But getting to six figures was not. I had no degree (at all, at that point) and no relevant certs and it never was an issue for my entire career, job after job. And I did a lot of jobs. Never once have I had it be a factor and I was in IT a long time before being famous and have only ever looked for work once since having some fame.

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                                    • wirestyle22W
                                      wirestyle22
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                                      No but I also don't expect to

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                                      • IRJI
                                        IRJ @wirestyle22
                                        last edited by

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                        No but I also don't expect to

                                        why not?

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                                        • wirestyle22W
                                          wirestyle22 @IRJ
                                          last edited by

                                          @IRJ said in Salary:

                                          @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                          No but I also don't expect to

                                          why not?

                                          I am always hired for job x which I am qualified for and then given responsibilities y which i am not qualified for

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                                          • IRJI
                                            IRJ @wirestyle22
                                            last edited by

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                            @IRJ said in Salary:

                                            @wirestyle22 said in Salary:

                                            No but I also don't expect to

                                            why not?

                                            I am always hired for job x which I am qualified for and then given responsibilities y which i am not qualified for

                                            Because you allow it

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