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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

      And you're attempting to stick to the most direct application of the definition of racism as being "by skin color only" when racism is equally applied to "hating anyone of a particular group, faction, skin, religion or other identifier".

      By strict you mean "only", in this case.

      I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

      Definition of racism

      1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
      2a : a doctrine or political program based on the assumption of racism and designed to execute its principles
      b : a political or social system founded on racism
      3 : racial prejudice or discrimination

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

        That means you hate all Muslims.

        Muslims are not a race. And I don't hate any Muslims. Where have you gotten any of that?

        Now you're getting into the semantics of the words when you realize you've backed yourself into a corner.

        You are aware that people are Racist and hate Muslims. Yes? And granted participating in the Muslim religion doesn't make you a type of person.

        This does still mean that you are a racist.

        What means I'm a racist? There is something fundamentally missing here. You think I'm a racist while not hating any group: race or otherwise?

        You agree that the war after 911 was acceptable, yet that was was specifically and blatantly targeting Muslims.

        I never agreed to that. I said that people who supported it were racists. I've never agreed with any war that the US has engaged in since 1960.

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        • DustinB3403D
          DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

          I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

          Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

          FFS. Is this really difficult to understand?

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            And I know that you will completely twist that, but it does not imply that I agree with all wars prior to 1960. But I know you are planning to go there.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

              I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

              Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

              No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.

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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller
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                But regardless, you think that I have a religious hatred of a group. But have said no reason why you believe this to be true.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                  I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

                  Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

                  No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.

                  You're insane if you think the definition of racism hasn't changed to include hating groups of people based on religion alone.

                  Absolutely insane.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
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                    An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.

                    The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                      I'm using racism in the only valid way, meaning race. You can't just make up a new definition. That's totally a different thing.

                      Racism as a sole word would be to hate a specific ethnicity. But it has evolved to include hating any group or culture.

                      No, it hasn't. You are simply confused.

                      You're insane if you think the definition of racism hasn't changed to include hating groups of people based on religion alone.

                      Absolutely insane.

                      Well I provided the dictionary definition. So the dictionary is insane.

                      You are desperately on a tangent and avoiding providing the proof that I hate Muslims.

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/41901/race-is-to-racism-as-religion-is-to-what

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller
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                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_discrimination

                          Weird that this isn't under racism, right?

                          https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/151928/is-there-a-word-for-hate-against-religions-or-a-specific-religion

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                          • DustinB3403D
                            DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
                            last edited by DustinB3403

                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                            An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.

                            The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.

                            Yes, religious intolerance is the exact term, and racism is included with it. The crusades were both religiously intolerant and racist at the same time.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                              @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                              An interesting aside..... calling something like Muslim or Judaism racism is, itself, kind of racist. By projecting racial characteristics onto a religious group. Not all practitioners of either religion are one race.

                              The term for what you want is often just called "religious intolerance." But as religion is voluntary and race is not, they are unrelated concepts.

                              Yes, religious intolerance is the exact term, and racism is included with it. The crusades were both religious intolerant and racist at the same time.

                              It is not. They are totally different concepts, as I explained why. You can't lump involuntary groups with voluntary societies. SO different, obviously. Would be insane to even suggest otherwise.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                So stop avoiding the point. WHY do you feel that I am anti-Muslim?

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  Which, I have to say, is really weird to call me of all people, because as a deist I see all of that religious group as one Christians, Muslims, Judaism... it's all one group.

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                                  • DustinB3403D
                                    DustinB3403 @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                    So stop avoiding the point. WHY do you feel that I am anti-Muslim?

                                    You said you condoned the war on terrorism. Which is known to be a war against Muslims of the middle east.

                                    By condoning a war against an entire race of people (middle east) based on your religious intolerance, you are not only racist but also religious intolerant.

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                                    • scottalanmillerS
                                      scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                      @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                      So stop avoiding the point. WHY do you feel that I am anti-Muslim?

                                      You said you condoned the war on terrorism.

                                      Where?

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @DustinB3403
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                                        @DustinB3403 said in What Are You Watching Now:

                                        By condoning a war against an entire race of people (middle east) based on your religious intolerance, you are not only racist but also religious intolerant.

                                        I get that. I don't disagree. But where did I condone it?

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          I just read everything that I wrote to look for something that I mistyped. And there is clearly nothing you could possibly construe as having supported the war, being angry with any racial group or religious group. So no clue where you made that up, but not even a typing mistake made that a possibility.

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller
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                                            Unless you are trying to claim that simply because of my racial or national membership that I must be a racist because you see all Americans as racist and therefore I'm racist by birth. That's the only thing I can guess you mean?

                                            Which makes no sense, to say that millions of American Muslims are anti-Muslim and therefore auto-racists against themselves?

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