Nextcloud AMA!!
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@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@LukasReschke said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Has anyone from there reached out to you about this to ensure things like download links always work, etc?
Never heard of chocolatey.org myself but our download links should actually stay valid.
It's the main software repository system for Windows (think RPM or DEB repo, for Windows.) It used to be a small, private open source project. But Microsoft has started working with them and it is semi-official at this point. It's built on NuGet, which is an official Windows tool from MS themselves.
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
Use the email client on NC, the integration is built in.
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
Use the email client on NC, the integration is built in.
Awww - I didn't realize how the email portion of NC worked. OK sounds like they are very close to competing with O365 already... now we just need local application direct integration (as mentioned above) and we'll be set.
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as asked by @JK74
I was wondering when some integration for MAC os like the client will be become available? It seems the current client is coded against an old openSSL library? Same for firefox or safari browser integration on a MAC? It seems like some file preview functions are all giving issues that is not helping the adoption to MAC users? Those same functions like preview etc. seem to work fine on a windows client. but please keep up the good work in coding! the product is awesome in its functionality. -
@Minion-Queen said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
I was wondering when some integration for MAC os like the client will be become available? It seems the current client is coded against an old openSSL library? Same for firefox or safari browser integration on a MAC? It seems like some file preview functions are all giving issues that is not helping the adoption to MAC users? Those same functions like preview etc. seem to work fine on a windows client. but please keep up the good work in coding! the product is awesome in its functionality.
More work is happening in this area, the upcoming 2.3 client will have a newer openSSL for example. And more is coming
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@JaredBusch said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Are there any plans to actually integrate an email server or just to remain as a client? Not saying that that is my vote either way, just interested in the email roadmap.
So one of the goals of Nextcloud is to be super easy to install. Because of that it is a pure PHP application that is super easy to install. So we can't include a full IMAP/SMTP server. And to be honest there is also no point in reinventing the wheel. A lot of great open source mailservers exists. Just install one of them and Nextcloud can use it.
A single appliance solution would be really great. I see the long term goal of this product competing directly against O365.
Email absolutely should not ever be integrated.
Thread on their forums.
https://help.nextcloud.com/t/nextcloud-mail-server/157Integrated directly, perhaps not, but as a ride-along-side, it would be great.
If I'm using gmail for my email and want to store my files in NextCloud - what's the current solution for that? download the file local, save to NC, open in NC and use LO to edit/view the file? what a huge PITA.
Use the email client on NC, the integration is built in.
Awww - I didn't realize how the email portion of NC worked. OK sounds like they are very close to competing with O365 already... now we just need local application direct integration (as mentioned above) and we'll be set.
From what I've used, it's quite nice and it is nice that you log into NC and have all of that stuff right there. NC is moving heavily to being the central portal that you would use. That's why I'd like to see things like wiki integration or something similar so that we can use it kind of like a corporate intranet.
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What type of support does NC have for contacts and Calendars?
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
What type of support does NC have for contacts and Calendars?
We have CardDAV and CalDAV syncing and apps to handle contacts and calendars. So you can share calendars, invite people and all the basic stuff.
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@jospoortvliet of course more good things are in development - and as with everything, help welcome
https://github.com/nextcloud/calendar
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Any chance you're working toward an ActiveSync add-in?
I.e. can the email client connect natively with O365 or Exchange for all of that goodness?
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Any chance you're working toward an ActiveSync add-in?
I.e. can the email client connect natively with O365 or Exchange for all of that goodness?
So it would be possible to implement ActiveSync relatively easy by including projects like zpush. Maybe someone does it. But i'm not sure how useful it is to use the Nextcloud Mailinterface with the Office365 backend. But maybe I'm missing the usecase here
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Any chance you're working toward an ActiveSync add-in?
I.e. can the email client connect natively with O365 or Exchange for all of that goodness?
Exchange has IMAP natively. So it already works with that natively.
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So everybody! It's two hours now, we need to recover from this barrage of questions
Thanks a lot for your input, I hope it was interesting and fun!
I'll keep hanging in the forums and you can always ping me, of course. I just need to lie down now
have a good one!
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@jospoortvliet Thanks, loads of info here today!
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@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Any chance you're working toward an ActiveSync add-in?
I.e. can the email client connect natively with O365 or Exchange for all of that goodness?
Exchange has IMAP natively. So it already works with that natively.
Does Exchange's IMAP supports calendar and contacts? I was under the impression that the only way to get that from Exchange was AS or CardDAV/CalDAV? and those DAV things aren't real time bi-directional syncing.
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We had fun thanks @jospoortvliet @Frank-Karlitschek & @LukasReschke !!!
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Back to the SQRL thing for a sec. Where would someone go to start looking at and/or contributing to the code base?
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@Frank-Karlitschek said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Any chance you're working toward an ActiveSync add-in?
I.e. can the email client connect natively with O365 or Exchange for all of that goodness?
So it would be possible to implement ActiveSync relatively easy by including projects like zpush. Maybe someone does it. But i'm not sure how useful it is to use the Nextcloud Mailinterface with the Office365 backend. But maybe I'm missing the usecase here
The use case as I see it here is that someone wants to use Exchange email (hosted Exchange) from MS ($4/u/m) but none of the rest of the services.. say they want to have NC in their own DC. So they could use the email client in NC to access Hosted Exchange and have NC right there next to it for file hosting and LO for creating/editing/reading attachments.
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@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@scottalanmiller said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
@Dashrender said in Nextcloud AMA!!:
Any chance you're working toward an ActiveSync add-in?
I.e. can the email client connect natively with O365 or Exchange for all of that goodness?
Exchange has IMAP natively. So it already works with that natively.
Does Exchange's IMAP supports calendar and contacts? I was under the impression that the only way to get that from Exchange was AS or CardDAV/CalDAV? and those DAV things aren't real time bi-directional syncing.
IMAP is a standard protocol. There are not "Exchange IMAP" versions or it would not be IMAP. IMAP is a mailbox transport protocol only. It's never attempted to tackle any other functionality nor should it as there are other protocols for that.
