Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices
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@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said
I don't see that on GitHub. Looks pretty public. Once they publish it publicly, it's not under wraps anymore. A bit like a billboard telling people not to tell others about the billboard.
rolls eyes
I'm confused. Are you saying that I'm being pedantic that they published this and somewhere that I don't see mentioned not wanting it to be public? Where did you come up with them saying that? And how is that supposed to work?
The announcement and all the discussion is locked away in a sign up only area of the forums. and of those signed up users, you have to opt into their T&Cs to read it.
Pretty cut and dry.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said
I don't see that on GitHub. Looks pretty public. Once they publish it publicly, it's not under wraps anymore. A bit like a billboard telling people not to tell others about the billboard.
rolls eyes
I'm confused. Are you saying that I'm being pedantic that they published this and somewhere that I don't see mentioned not wanting it to be public? Where did you come up with them saying that? And how is that supposed to work?
The announcement and all the discussion is locked away in a sign up only area of the forums. and of those signed up users, you have to opt into their T&Cs to read it.
Pretty cut and dry.
So you're not allowed to talk about what goes on in that area of the forums.
I wonder if people running things on the forums know that github is public, and posting the code on github makes at least the code a public announcement?
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@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said
I don't see that on GitHub. Looks pretty public. Once they publish it publicly, it's not under wraps anymore. A bit like a billboard telling people not to tell others about the billboard.
rolls eyes
I'm confused. Are you saying that I'm being pedantic that they published this and somewhere that I don't see mentioned not wanting it to be public? Where did you come up with them saying that? And how is that supposed to work?
The announcement and all the discussion is locked away in a sign up only area of the forums. and of those signed up users, you have to opt into their T&Cs to read it.
Pretty cut and dry.
But I'm not in that area, not subject to the T&C and found the information that they published. So anything but cut and dry. Murky and non-applicable, it would seem.
I'll roll my eyes back. If I found it on GitHub, it is cut and dry, but not in the way you are thinking. You are subject to the T&C because you opted into it. I am not, as I did not.
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@travisdh1 said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said
I don't see that on GitHub. Looks pretty public. Once they publish it publicly, it's not under wraps anymore. A bit like a billboard telling people not to tell others about the billboard.
rolls eyes
I'm confused. Are you saying that I'm being pedantic that they published this and somewhere that I don't see mentioned not wanting it to be public? Where did you come up with them saying that? And how is that supposed to work?
The announcement and all the discussion is locked away in a sign up only area of the forums. and of those signed up users, you have to opt into their T&Cs to read it.
Pretty cut and dry.
So you're not allowed to talk about what goes on in that area of the forums.
I wonder if people running things on the forums know that github is public, and posting the code on github makes at least the code a public announcement?
They have to know, this is what they do.
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@Breffni-Potter they made it public by putting it on get hub that means is no longer bound to the beta rules. It is public.
For anyone interested here's the sign up link
https://help.ubnt.com/hc/en-us/articles/204908664-How-To-Sign-Up-for-Beta-Access
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@scottalanmiller said
But I'm not in that area, not subject to the T&C and found the information that they published. So anything but cut and dry. Murky and non-applicable, it would seem.
How did you find it on GitHub?
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@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said
But I'm not in that area, not subject to the T&C and found the information that they published. So anything but cut and dry. Murky and non-applicable, it would seem.
How did you find it on GitHub?
Besides it being publicly published to the Internet you mean?
It's right there under the Ubiquiti main page:
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@scottalanmiller said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
@scottalanmiller said
But I'm not in that area, not subject to the T&C and found the information that they published. So anything but cut and dry. Murky and non-applicable, it would seem.
How did you find it on GitHub?
Besides it being publicly published to the Internet you mean?
It's right there under the Ubiquiti main page:
How did you find that Ubiquiti page on github then?
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The public Internet is... public. Once something is there it is like a billboard. You cannot, under any conditions, have "restrictions" on what people can discuss or look at if you display it publicly. You can't publish it and then tell people what they can and can't do. For example, we can't just tell you not to talk about this thread now. It's too late. Had you agreed to that before we had the conversation, that would be fine. But after the fact, your right to discuss it already exists and there is no power that anyone has to take that away.
Ubiquiti has quite clearly made this fully public at this point and your T&C page is irrelevant to those of us that have not agreed to it, seen it or gone past it. The content I see is public, end of story.
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First hit...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=github+ubiquiti-app -
So you did that before you read this post yeah?
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@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
So you did that before you read this post yeah?
Absolutely irrelevant. Why are you talking about this? Obviously that doesn't matter at all. What is the point of this conversation?
Ubiquiti has published publicly, end of story. There is nothing more to discuss. Your binding by the T&C, your knowledge of there being a T&C is of no consequence to anyone else.
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F....ing lawyers
Who cares how someone found out about it, it's out there, in public, game over. -
Technically I don't think he's allowed to tell us about the T&C at all if he accepted it. He can't actually tell us because he had to agree not to discuss it. We did not so can do so freely.
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It's like people who have classified clearance levels, they aren't even allowed to look at websites that have the posted classified links, or read news paper articles of/about them, etc...
That fact that he's participating in this conversation is probably against his T&C
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@Dashrender said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
That fact that he's participating in this conversation is probably against his T&C
Yeah, that's what I was trying to say. He agreed to terms that say he can't discuss it. We did not. We are totally free to do so as it is public. He, however, remains bound by the T&C regardless of if it is now public or not. Now would UBNT care? Of course not, but legally, the T&C could still bind him but it cannot, in any way, ever mind us as we did not agree to it or even know about it.
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@Breffni-Potter said in Ubiquiti working on single pane management for EdgeMax devices:
So you did that before you read this post yeah?
But before I was told of the T&C. If you are going to play the "when did you find out" game, the T&C came too late and from a non-official source with no authority to make us aware of the T&C. So technically, I'm still not aware if there is a T&C, only that someone feels that there is, and am under no obligation to seek it out and am not bound by it even if I find it and learn of it unless I go further and agree to it.
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Seems pretty clear that UBNT has gone public with this at this point.
