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    What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs

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    • dafyreD
      dafyre @BRRABill
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      @BRRABill said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

      @dafyre said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

      @BRRABill said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

      @Dashrender said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

      I've been lucky I guess - I've never lost an array when resilvering a RAID 5 array.

      Me either, technically.

      Though I have lost a good percentage just from plugging the new drive in.

      This is what triggers the resilver 🙂

      So if the tree never falls in the forest, did it even fall?

      Did it ever exist?

      Edit: Great. Now I'm having an existential crisis.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        Was there even a forest?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @marcinozga
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          @marcinozga said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

          @Dashrender I came from heavy gaming background, so performance was always my priority, sometimes the only priority, lol. So RAID 5 was off the table, period. And I was lucky enough to always work for people who had no clue what I was actually doing.

          Me too - but they my bosses always pushed - can't it be cheaper? And crazy me said, well there is this option with RAID 5 - I probably just should have said - no, it can't be cheaper.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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            @Dashrender said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

            @marcinozga said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

            @Dashrender I came from heavy gaming background, so performance was always my priority, sometimes the only priority, lol. So RAID 5 was off the table, period. And I was lucky enough to always work for people who had no clue what I was actually doing.

            Me too - but they my bosses always pushed - can't it be cheaper? And crazy me said, well there is this option with RAID 5 - I probably just should have said - no, it can't be cheaper.

            Right, because the logic that kept you from telling them that there is no RAID 0 option should have also ruled out RAID 5. It's a very important "business presentation" skill in IT, knowing what to present as an option and what to rule out. The people to whom you are presenting assume that if you present it, even as an out-lier, that you have approved it. Because you'd never say that skipping backups or using RAID 0 or running servers from desktops was an option, right? So if you don't present those, and you do present RAID 5, clearly you are conveying to management that they fall into different categories. Since the category of the first group is "this isn't an option so I can't tell you about it" the category of the second has to be some flavour of "not my top pick but something worth considering is..."

            When, in fact, RAID 5 should be part of the first group along with RAID 2, 3 and 4.

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            • StrongBadS
              StrongBad @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller that might be worth its own topic.

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              • Oles BorysO
                Oles Borys @Obsolesce
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                @Tim_G

                I would go RAID 5 on SSD when i am short on budget, but i need SSD performance.
                In case I am capable of going SSD RAID 10, i will 🙂

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                • DashrenderD
                  Dashrender @Oles Borys
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                  @Oles-Borys said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                  @Tim_G

                  I would go RAID 5 on SSD when i am short on budget, but i need SSD performance.
                  In case I am capable of going SSD RAID 10, i will 🙂

                  I'm a little confused by this. Personally I would primarily go RAID 5 on SSD, and only consider going RAID 10 when I need the max performance from the array possible. The IOPs difference between HDD and SDD is staggering. Could you need more than RAID 5 SSD gives? Sure, but that seems more like a fringe case.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                    @Dashrender said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                    @Oles-Borys said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                    @Tim_G

                    I would go RAID 5 on SSD when i am short on budget, but i need SSD performance.
                    In case I am capable of going SSD RAID 10, i will 🙂

                    I'm a little confused by this. Personally I would primarily go RAID 5 on SSD, and only consider going RAID 10 when I need the max performance from the array possible. The IOPs difference between HDD and SDD is staggering. Could you need more than RAID 5 SSD gives? Sure, but that seems more like a fringe case.

                    Did someone say fringe case?

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                    • stacksofplatesS
                      stacksofplates
                      last edited by stacksofplates

                      I just set up a RAID 0 volume today with two SSDs on our one head node. It's pretty freaking fast.

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                      • ObsolesceO
                        Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
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                        @scottalanmiller said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                        @Dashrender said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                        @Oles-Borys said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                        @Tim_G

                        I would go RAID 5 on SSD when i am short on budget, but i need SSD performance.
                        In case I am capable of going SSD RAID 10, i will 🙂

                        I'm a little confused by this. Personally I would primarily go RAID 5 on SSD, and only consider going RAID 10 when I need the max performance from the array possible. The IOPs difference between HDD and SDD is staggering. Could you need more than RAID 5 SSD gives? Sure, but that seems more like a fringe case.

                        Did someone say fringe case?

                        alt text

                        Lol, really?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @Obsolesce
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                          @Tim_G said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                          @Dashrender said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                          @Oles-Borys said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                          @Tim_G

                          I would go RAID 5 on SSD when i am short on budget, but i need SSD performance.
                          In case I am capable of going SSD RAID 10, i will 🙂

                          I'm a little confused by this. Personally I would primarily go RAID 5 on SSD, and only consider going RAID 10 when I need the max performance from the array possible. The IOPs difference between HDD and SDD is staggering. Could you need more than RAID 5 SSD gives? Sure, but that seems more like a fringe case.

                          Did someone say fringe case?

                          alt text

                          Lol, really?

                          Yes, that's how we are... I'm the one that posted the pizza boxes and got that thread blown up 👼

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                          • StrongBadS
                            StrongBad @stacksofplates
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                            @stacksofplates said in What Makes Parity RAID Safe on SSDs:

                            I just set up a RAID 0 volume today with two SSDs on our one head node. It's pretty freaking fast.

                            One would hope.

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                            • DashrenderD
                              Dashrender
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                              Can we get some tags on this post?

                              URE is one I would love to see added.
                              Thanks

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