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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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      @FATeknollogee said in My experiences with Hyper-V Server 2016:

      @JaredBusch No interest in using XenServer 7.x?

      in production? not a chance.

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      • FATeknollogeeF
        FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch Why not XS in production? Seems stable enough.

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        • JaredBuschJ
          JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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          @FATeknollogee said in My experiences with Hyper-V Server 2016:

          @JaredBusch Why not XS in production? Seems stable enough.

          not the point of this thread. take it elsewhere.

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @FATeknollogee
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            @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

            @JaredBusch Why not XS in production? Seems stable enough.

            Extreme stable. Xen is the most mature hypervisor on the market, as well. But they don't use XS where he is, Hyper-V is their expertise.

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            • DustinB3403D
              DustinB3403
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              I feel like this topic was forked.

              To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

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              • FATeknollogeeF
                FATeknollogee @DustinB3403
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                @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                I feel like this topic was forked.

                To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                If you only "use what you are most comfortable with" at what point does one ever get out of their comfort zone & try something new?

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @FATeknollogee
                  last edited by

                  @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                  @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                  I feel like this topic was forked.

                  To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                  If you only "use what you are most comfortable with" at what point does one ever get out of their comfort zone & try something new?

                  This is a matter of production use vs lab use. In a lab, use whatever you want.

                  I get the concept, but it's a business matter, not a comfort one.

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                  • CloudKnightC
                    CloudKnight
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                    Nothing Wrong with Xenserver, stable, stable, stable, horses for courses.......

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch
                      last edited by JaredBusch

                      XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                      I had XS 6.5 up and running in my home lab for a while and those were the two issue that prevented me from doing anything with it in production.

                      Remember that "in production" means up and running in a tiny SMB that I am rarely at in person. XO is making things better, but then that turns into more expense with XOA or my time from source.

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                      • JaredBuschJ
                        JaredBusch @DustinB3403
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                        @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                        I feel like this topic was forked.

                        To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                        It was forked, much to my amazement, without me asking, from https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016

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                        • FATeknollogeeF
                          FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                          @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                          XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                          You mean "handing off" the system to someone else?

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                          • JaredBuschJ
                            JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
                            last edited by

                            @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                            @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                            XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                            You mean "handing off" the system to someone else?

                            Yes.

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                            • FATeknollogeeF
                              FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                              @JaredBusch That's a valid concern!

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                Remember that "in production" means up and running in a tiny SMB that I am rarely at in person. XO is making things better, but then that turns into more expense with XOA or my time from source.

                                My thing about XO for MSPs, is that in a case where you can manage multiple clients, you can use XO as a central management console. Maybe you have a tool for that for Hyper-V or maybe you can't use that use case, but that's something I like a lot about XS and XO from an MSP perspective.

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                                • FATeknollogeeF
                                  FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                  @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                  I feel like this topic was forked.

                                  To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                                  It was forked, much to my amazement, without me asking, from https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016

                                  I thought the "fork" was a good idea, that way I didn't "jack" your original thread, since I was responsible for the sideways question

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                                  • JaredBuschJ
                                    JaredBusch @FATeknollogee
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                                    @FATeknollogee said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                    @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                    @DustinB3403 said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                    I feel like this topic was forked.

                                    To answer the question, you use what you are most comfortable with and can support (get support) for if needed.

                                    It was forked, much to my amazement, without me asking, from https://mangolassi.it/topic/12296/my-experiences-with-hyper-v-server-2016

                                    I thought the "fork" was a good idea, that way I didn't "jack" your original thread, since I was responsible for the sideways question

                                    My opinion here is not new. I have stated it before in other threads.

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch
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                                      some one tag this thread.

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                                      • FATeknollogeeF
                                        FATeknollogee @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by FATeknollogee

                                        @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                        XS is stable, yes. But my problem with XS, as always, is backups and ease of handoff.

                                        I've tried to ask @Olivier why not offer an SMB centric XOA version (priced right) with just the backup & DR features

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                                          @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                          some one tag this thread.

                                          Done

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                                          • DashrenderD
                                            Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                            @JaredBusch said in XS 7 or HyperV 2016:

                                            Remember that "in production" means up and running in a tiny SMB that I am rarely at in person. XO is making things better, but then that turns into more expense with XOA or my time from source.

                                            My thing about XO for MSPs, is that in a case where you can manage multiple clients, you can use XO as a central management console. Maybe you have a tool for that for Hyper-V or maybe you can't use that use case, but that's something I like a lot about XS and XO from an MSP perspective.

                                            Wouldn't that mean exposing your XS to the internet? I suppose not if you lock the inbound ports to the IP of the XO, where ever it's hosted. So from a management point of view, that's great, but I don't think most would end up using the backup portion in that situation, soooo...

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