The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?
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Ok, my Surface 4 m3 is arrived and I've no issue till now, but… I really want a unix-like as the host OS, so I think I will get another laptop after returning it.
I've no use for the tablet mode, I was thinking it was more optimized.Now I'm considering Asus UX305UA vs Dell XPS13 9360… any experience with them? I've read that the XPS is used by Linux Torvalds for kernel development when he is on travel, so I think it will work :D., The UX305 is also considered a very linux-friendly machine.
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@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
I've no use for the tablet mode, I was thinking it was more optimized.
The Surface are like... anti-optimized.
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@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
Now I'm considering Asus UX305UA vs Dell XPS13 9360…
I have an Asus for Linux and love it, but it was pretty touchy as to getting Linux installed. Nothing but Ubuntu was happy on mine, but other models more or less anything installs just fine. It's weird.
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@scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
I've no use for the tablet mode, I was thinking it was more optimized.
The Surface are like... anti-optimized.
Microsoft sells a lot of stuff that depresses me
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@scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
Now I'm considering Asus UX305UA vs Dell XPS13 9360…
I have an Asus for Linux and love it, but it was pretty touchy as to getting Linux installed. Nothing but Ubuntu was happy on mine, but other models more or less anything installs just fine. It's weird.
@scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
Now I'm considering Asus UX305UA vs Dell XPS13 9360…
I have an Asus for Linux and love it, but it was pretty touchy as to getting Linux installed. Nothing but Ubuntu was happy on mine, but other models more or less anything installs just fine. It's weird.
I've the same fear about the UX305. The XPS 9360 is certified for Ubuntu and they also sell it with ubuntu 16.04 preinstalled. It should outperform a macbook pro 2016 for a little less money in general stuff. Surely it's ahead of a wide margin for anything regarding docker/containers (native, of course) and virtualization (kvm is way better than anything on osx).
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While I have just gotten my new Dell - I'm setting it up as WIndows ,... for now. But - I am doing a hard consideration to 'follow' @scottalanmiller in the ways of Ubuntu with a Win10VM.
This Dell Inspiron is nicer than the last Dell, but I don't think as good as the ACER that just died... but as I just got it yesterday, I'm still setting and moving things.
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@scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
I've no use for the tablet mode, I was thinking it was more optimized.
The Surface are like... anti-optimized.
I was going to ask - optimized in what way? What were you expecting that you didn't get?
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@Dashrender said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@scottalanmiller said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
I've no use for the tablet mode, I was thinking it was more optimized.
The Surface are like... anti-optimized.
I was going to ask - optimized in what way? What were you expecting that you didn't get?
Well for one thing they run Windows 10 which is specifically terrible on a tablet. Slow, unresponsive, hard to use on a touch screen.
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@gjacobse said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
This Dell Inspiron is nicer than the last Dell, but I don't think as good as the ACER that just died... but as I just got it yesterday, I'm still setting and moving things.
What makes it not as good?
The Inspiron line is the consumer line, so there's always that too.
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@Dashrender said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@gjacobse said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
This Dell Inspiron is nicer than the last Dell, but I don't think as good as the ACER that just died... but as I just got it yesterday, I'm still setting and moving things.
What makes it not as good?
The Inspiron line is the consumer line, so there's always that too.
Inspirons are a freaking nightmare to work on. Like disassemble the whole damned thing to get to RAM or HDD. I told the owner here if he ever ordered anymore of them, I would smash them to bits. But he had seen me struggling to change a drive in one, so no more Inspirons.
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@Dashrender said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@gjacobse said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
This Dell Inspiron is nicer than the last Dell, but I don't think as good as the ACER that just died... but as I just got it yesterday, I'm still setting and moving things.
What makes it not as good?
The Inspiron line is the consumer line, so there's always that too.
yes,... I know the Inspiron line is consumer,.. but so was the Acer as it was bought as BestBuy...
First thing maybe is the battery life - I am pretty sure I was pushing 6-8 hours on the ACER,.. but last night this Dell was showing 2-3 hours on battery..
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@gjacobse said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
First thing maybe is the battery life - I am pretty sure I was pushing 6-8 hours on the ACER,.. but last night this Dell was showing 2-3 hours on battery..
faster processor now? more RAM? lower capacity battery in the Dell?
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@Dashrender said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
@gjacobse said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
First thing maybe is the battery life - I am pretty sure I was pushing 6-8 hours on the ACER,.. but last night this Dell was showing 2-3 hours on battery..
faster processor now? more RAM? lower capacity battery in the Dell?
All good questions... and I'll have to compare them.
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The last question for you all… I'm going to get a Dell XPS 9360, but I cannot decide between regolar FHQ and touch QHD screen…
FHD
- more battery life
- more compatibility with standard Linux GUI
- little cheaper, little lighter
QHD
- more brightness
- a lot more pixel
- touch capability
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@Francesco-Provino said in The Sysadmin / CTO machine - A Surface + Cloud to rule them all?:
The last question for you all… I'm going to get a Dell XPS 9360, but I cannot decide between regolar FHQ and touch QHD screen…
FHD
- more battery life
- more compatibility with standard Linux GUI
- little cheaper, little lighter
QHD
- more brightness
- a lot more pixel
- touch capability
Are you going for mobility or what?
Unless you REALLY plan on using the touch screen a lot... I'd go for battery life.
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I consider those things really a personal preference.
I'm not sure what makes a lower resolution display more compatibility with standard Linux GUI it's just a resolution. I suppose you could mean - it has the same scaling problem that Microsoft Windows has with high resolution screens (they are a bit better, but really only a bit).
You've nailed it with the list of differences, you have to decide for yourself what is important, that's not something can decide for you.
