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    • DashrenderD
      Dashrender @openit
      last edited by Dashrender

      @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

      @Danp said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

      @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

      @openit I imported XOA successfully.

      You can trial XOA. If you want to use all of it's features, you will need to either purchase a license or build from source.

      As I remember I downloaded free version, which is coming with Basic features.

      Is that mean, I going to get full features for 30 days and free one after that ?

      or

      Downloaded wrong one (paid) instead of free ?

      If XOA converts to a free version after the trial, that's news to me.

      @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

      How can I prepare XO free one ? (any article)

      Wwhat vm I need to build ? are you saying to setup some CentOS VM on XS7 and setup XO ?
      and how about script (from where I can get it) ?

      As @hobbit666 says

      @hobbit666 said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

      Your best bet is to install Ubuntu and use the script
      sudo curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scottalanmiller/xenorchestra_installer/master/xo_install.sh | bash

      see this thread.
      https://www.mangolassi.it/topic/7349/xen-orchestra-on-ubuntu-15-10-complete-installation-instructions

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      • DanpD
        Danp @Dashrender
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        @Dashrender https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/editions.html

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @Danp
          last edited by

          @Danp said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

          @Dashrender https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/editions.html

          Thanks.

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          • openitO
            openit @hobbit666
            last edited by

            @hobbit666 said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

            Your best bet is to install Ubuntu and use the script
            sudo curl https://raw.githubusercontent.com/scottalanmiller/xenorchestra_installer/master/xo_install.sh | bash

            see this thread.
            https://www.mangolassi.it/topic/7349/xen-orchestra-on-ubuntu-15-10-complete-installation-instructions

            Okay, noted to check it out later.

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            • openitO
              openit @Danp
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              @Danp said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

              @Dashrender https://xen-orchestra.com/docs/editions.html

              How about VM backup in XenCenter or Xen-Orchestra Free ?

              1. XenCenter : When I googled, there is backup option via Bash or manual way.....
              2. XO Free: No VM backup too 😞 ?

              This is a basic edition, allowing you to do administrator tasks on a virtualized infrastructure. It's "like" XenCenter. You can:

              Create VMs, SRs etc.
Access to web consoles
Edit resources (VM, pools etc.)
Make snapshots
Migrate VMs
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              • scottalanmillerS
                scottalanmiller @openit
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                @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                1. XenCenter : When I googled, there is backup option via Bash or manual way.....

                XC is only control, not features. And there are reasons that we never use or recommend it. Ignore that it even exists.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @openit
                  last edited by

                  @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                  1. XO Free: No VM backup too 😞 ?

                  It absolutely does, @DustinB3403 uses it and people talk about it all the time. @olivier has been posting about the awesome new backup features that they are working on adding, as well.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @openit
                    last edited by

                    @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                    This is a basic edition, allowing you to do administrator tasks on a virtualized infrastructure. It's "like" XenCenter. You can:

                    You are looking at XOA, not XO. That's the problem. People do that all the time and get SO confused. Everything in XO is totally free, but NOT if you try to use XOA. You can't use the appliance and get stuff for free.

                    XOA is the fully supported, commercial packaged appliance version. This costs money if you want the features, but comes with inclusive support.

                    We don't mean XOA when we say XO and the script you are talking about above is for XO. XO is 100% free and open. We recommend you get support both to have support and to support the vendor, of course. But for testing or if you just don't have the budget, stick with standard XO for free and you get all of the features (except support.)

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                    • openitO
                      openit @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                      @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                      This is a basic edition, allowing you to do administrator tasks on a virtualized infrastructure. It's "like" XenCenter. You can:

                      You are looking at XOA, not XO. That's the problem. People do that all the time and get SO confused. Everything in XO is totally free, but NOT if you try to use XOA. You can't use the appliance and get stuff for free.

                      XOA is the fully supported, commercial packaged appliance version. This costs money if you want the features, but comes with inclusive support.

                      We don't mean XOA when we say XO and the script you are talking about above is for XO. XO is 100% free and open. We recommend you get support both to have support and to support the vendor, of course. But for testing or if you just don't have the budget, stick with standard XO for free and you get all of the features (except support.)

                      Okay, I understand now, noted 🙂

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller
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                        Right now the backup capabilities of XO are pretty basic. It's image based backups like Veeam or Unitrends do, but it does not have the additional technology to open up the backups and pull out individual files. To do that you need to mount the snaps yourself and go through them to grab individual files. In some cases you might need additional tooling from a third party if you want to extract emails from an Exchange database, for example.

                        But that kind of stuff XO is working on and maybe we will see that included in the future as well, a la Veeam.

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                        • olivierO
                          olivier
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                          @scottalanmiller It's planned to release file level restore in next release (~15 days) if everything go smooth.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller @olivier
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                            @olivier said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                            @scottalanmiller It's planned to release file level restore in next release (~15 days) if everything go smooth.

                            Oh wow, way sooner than I had imagined!

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                            • openitO
                              openit @olivier
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                              @olivier said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                              @scottalanmiller It's planned to release file level restore in next release (~15 days) if everything go smooth.

                              Thank You 🙂

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                              • Reid CooperR
                                Reid Cooper
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                                That's exciting @olivier looking forward to seeing that in action.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  I'm definitely super interested to see how this will work.

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                                  • olivierO
                                    olivier
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                                    This is currently a large amount of work (therefore cost for us) to be able to read VHD files (explaining it will be in Premium version of XOA) and do all the needed stuff on top. But I hope we'll be on time!

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                                    • openitO
                                      openit
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                                      Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                      Th@k$ !!

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @openit
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                                        @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                        Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                        Th@k$ !!

                                        Awesome, welcome to the dark side.

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                                        • openitO
                                          openit @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                          @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                          Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                          Th@k$ !!

                                          Awesome, welcome to the dark side.

                                          Huh ?
                                          what do you mean by dark side 🙂 ?

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                                          • scottalanmillerS
                                            scottalanmiller @openit
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                                            @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                            @openit said in Free bare metal virtualization, HyperV free or VMware ESXi 6 free or else ?:

                                            Ok, decided to go with XenServer 7.

                                            Th@k$ !!

                                            Awesome, welcome to the dark side.

                                            Huh ?
                                            what do you mean by dark side 🙂 ?

                                            Good IT, it's always the dark side.

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