CloudatCost has released over 400 Applications
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@Jason and then there are the VMware and SAN issues.
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I used CloudatCost for a couple of years and wondered how they did it so cheap. Looks like they finally died this weekend. Panel.cloudatcost.com has completely failed this morning.
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@MisterZee Are you able to log in, or not get the site up at all?
Site comes up right away for me.
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@dafyre After login I am getting a response :" DATABASE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING: CONNECTION_ERROR" from panel.cloudatcost.com
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@MisterZee Mine let me in, but it was slow.
Edit: Scratch that. I get the DB Left the Building when trying to open the console.
Edit 2: My VM is up via SSH though, so no harm, no foul there.
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@MisterZee said in CloudatCost has released over 400 Applications:
I used CloudatCost for a couple of years and wondered how they did it so cheap. Looks like they finally died this weekend. Panel.cloudatcost.com has completely failed this morning.
They've been in their death throws for a long time. We actually figured out how they did it so cheaply a couple of years ago. They were super active here but never managed to get a working platform out the door. It would "kind of" work for a bit, but for long. We could see that they were using VMware and a SAN, which are not really viable for what they are doing. They are trying to build a cloud on legacy architecture and trying to pay for outside support which is too costly at scale. They don't know what they are doing and slapped something together that would allow them to make sales on day one without any expertise, so their startup costs looked cheap to VCs, but their operational cost was through the roof and never went down like a normal cloud provider would. So there was no way to make money when they scaled up. They have the most expensive platform with the lowest prices - simply doesn't work. But they lack the people with the know how to realize what they did wrong or how to fix it.
Immediately we saw that they were unable to get viable VMs running. After a few months they changed their tune and claimed to be a hobby system instead of a production cloud, but their advertising videos where they claimed to be production ready were archived and they were busted.
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@MisterZee said in CloudatCost has released over 400 Applications:
@dafyre After login I am getting a response :" DATABASE HAS LEFT THE BUILDING: CONNECTION_ERROR" from panel.cloudatcost.com
If you want to see some history on the whole thing, check out things tagged with them:
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Thanks for the background! It confirms what I suspected.
I am not ready to call them crooks. I sincerely hope they succeed. The one-time fee works better for me than maintaining an aged PC in a closet at my university. I'm willing to suffer some downtime, crashes, and even awful disk I/O that feels like floppy.
I am guessing they lost some of their hardware. My VM crashed on Friday(11/25). I tried to initialize a new VM. Pending for over 24 hours. They kindly cancelled it but a second try at another init has been pending for nearly a day.
I am starting a cloud search...
Does anyone maintain a list of cloud providers? As a non-profit I can get a pretty good deal at Amazon. $175 gets me $2k of AWS. That is overkill for what I need now. -
Digital Ocean and Vultr are heavily recommended here, depending on what you want to do.
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@MisterZee said in CloudatCost has released over 400 Applications:
I am not ready to call them crooks.
They openly took money under false pretenses, then proceeded to lie about it, then claimed that they would offer explanations, then ran away. It's been years and they've not fixed anything, nor from what we can tell even tried to fix anything. I think we are years past the "crooks" point there.
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@MisterZee said in CloudatCost has released over 400 Applications:
I am starting a cloud search...
Does anyone maintain a list of cloud providers? As a non-profit I can get a pretty good deal at Amazon. $175 gets me $2k of AWS. That is overkill for what I need now.This would be perfect for it's own thread. But here is the list that we normally talk about:
- Amazon AWS
- Azure
- Google Cloud
- Softlayer
- Rackspace
- Digital Ocean
- Vultr
- Linode
The top four are essentially non-applicable for the SMB space, they are full clouds with full cloud mentality that expect a full DevOps team to manage them. Rackspace has support issues and costs way too much, so while they are okay and we used to use them, we wouldn't touch them today.
DO,Vultr and Linode have become our three "go to" cloud providers. They all do different things, are great to work with, focus on the VPS functionality needed in the SMB, are similar in price and make sense for the vast majority of the market. We are posting this on the ML servers hosted at Linode as we speak
