I can't even
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A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.
I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.
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@DustinB3403 said in I can't even:
A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.
I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.
RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5
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@JaredBusch said in I can't even:
@DustinB3403 said in I can't even:
A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.
I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.
RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5
Are you assuming this guy has a secondary backup? If this is his only backup I think redundancy becomes more important than cost. What is the point of having a backup that fails past a single hard drive failure? Seems really risky to me. Asking to learn the reasoning
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@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@JaredBusch said in I can't even:
@DustinB3403 said in I can't even:
A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.
I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.
RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5
Are you assuming this guy has a secondary backup? If this is his only backup I think redundancy becomes more important than cost. What is the point of having a backup that fails past a single hard drive failure? Seems really risky to me. Asking to learn the reasoning
Because it IS a backup. You do not need a backup to survive past a single drive failure.
You have reliability and redundancy on the primary system. You do not need it on the backup.
Additionally, this is a on site backup (we assume, because it was never stated), and that means there should also be an offsite already.
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@JaredBusch said in I can't even:
@DustinB3403 said in I can't even:
A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.
I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.
RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5
Oh I don't disagree, I just can't even get involved with the issues. Buffalo Terastation, and then the compounded issues of drive choice etc.
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@DustinB3403 said in I can't even:
@JaredBusch said in I can't even:
@DustinB3403 said in I can't even:
A tiny OBR5 with WD Green 1TB 5400 drives, has gone belly up. The OP is looking to restore the system, but seems to be getting incorrect information.
I don't want to get involved..... Buffalo NAS and support seem to be bad enough. Not to mention the system design.
RAID5 on a backup target is a solid use of drive space. Now, I would agree that with disk prices today, there is no reason for it, but there is nothing wrong with it, as long as you understand and accept the downsides of RAID5
Oh I don't disagree, I just can't even get involved with the issues. Buffalo Terastation, and then the compounded issues of drive choice etc.
You got involved, you cross posted it here and derided it. Do you think people at SW do not know that you did so? You are mistaken.
Edit for clarity: We all talk about threads from elsewhere all the time, but you consistently cross post from SW intentionally to deride them.
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@JaredBusch fair point....
But you made this thread for the very purpose.
I won't get involved and even attempt to assist.
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@DustinB3403 said in I can't even:
@JaredBusch fair point....
But you made this thread for the very purpose.
I won't get involved and even attempt to assist.
I did, and I am quite aware of what thread this is.
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@JaredBusch So you're bashing is different than mine, because of the volume of it?
Seems like the pot calling the kettle black.
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So this one is a bit mind boggling.... Can I format the OS partition to change from FAT32 to NTFS and keep things in working order?
No... just no. Don't attempt this.
Second... you need to virtualize.
Third just setup a new DC and migrate the roles before you do anything. Attempting this will likely break the DC.
Also you only have a single DC?!
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I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
Maybe I was dreaming it.
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@Dashrender said in I can't even:
I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
Maybe I was dreaming it.
It would have been a decade or more ago.There used to be one to go from Fat16 to Fat32. I don't remember any that would go from Fat32 to NTFS.
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@Dashrender said in I can't even:
I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
Maybe I was dreaming it.
It would have been a decade or more ago.Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?
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@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@Dashrender said in I can't even:
I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
Maybe I was dreaming it.
It would have been a decade or more ago.Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?
The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.
http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html
That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.
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@dafyre said in I can't even:
@wirestyle22 said in I can't even:
@Dashrender said in I can't even:
I thought I heard about a utility that could convert without data loss from FAT to NTFS or the other way, I don't recall anymore.
Maybe I was dreaming it.
It would have been a decade or more ago.Wouldn't converting live file systems grind the system to a hault anyway or am I crazy?
The tools I am thinking of were not live converters.
http://www.tweakandtrick.com/2012/02/convert-fat32-to-ntfs-file-system.html
That will do a conversion. Not sure if it does boot volume or not.
Ah I see
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This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis
My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.
It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.
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@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis
Wonder if I'll get any comments on my one word answer.
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@BRRABill said in I can't even:
@scottalanmiller said in I can't even:
This guy moved from "this looks bad" to "if I was his boss I'd reconsider his employment." He's clearly got an agenda and even suggesting that he consider something else gets him quite defensive. I wonder what he's playing at. We warned him thoroughly about why every single thing he was doing was reckless and his responses were super clear that he didn't read anything we wrote and stated gibberish in response to every point. Either he's incredibly slow or he's being intentionally belligerent to cover for something. Why he's bothering to ask for advice when he obviously has no interest in it, though, is beyond me. Every single respondent had the same opinion of what he was doing being stupid. Not like there was any debate, at all.
https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1962353-storage-spaces-and-iscsis
My only "defense" is that when you start out interacting with you, and some others, it does feel like people are being a bit aggressive and ... whatever.
It's not the case. I'm just saying it's probably a common first reaction.
Yeah, but he's supposed to be an IT guy. He should be looking for vetting of his ideas every day. Who cares that I sound aggressive? I didn't call him stupid, I pointed out how to fix his mistakes so that he could not get fired.
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all we can really do is LOL.
Actually that's not true - this guy has preconceived notions that need to be challenged. No different than I did when I joined SW years ago. I'm guessing he's missing the understanding of why RAID 5 is bad for HDDs these days (just like I was), definitely seems to not understand how the Storage Spaces works, etc.
Now Scott loves to assume that everyone is as brilliant as he is, and that they automatically know that Storage Spaces is the rebanded MS Software RAID. The reality is that many don't. And he, like many others, my have run MS RAID in the past and were part of the fortunate ones that never had a problem with it. So, like those that believe they have HA because they have a SAN and they've never had outage continue to believe in that single SAN solution as viable for HA, we know from understanding real failure domains that it's not HA.
