Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun
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What do you mean no Verizon version? They were unlocked phones there is no carrier version. Just like unlocked iPhones they work on all carriers GSM or CDMA.
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@stacksofplates said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
I really can't believe they just killed it off like that.
They just announced that they're killing support for an old version of the OS that 2.5 years old. This is equivalent to Google killing support for KitKat or Apple dropping support for iOS 7.
Kind of. However both of those have had new OS versions since then. This is the only OS that Microsoft has for the phones. To go along with what you said, it would be more like dropping support for WP7.
They still support Windows 10 Mobile.
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@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Windows 10 Mobile
Ah I didn't realize they actually pushed that out to some phones. I thought it was just a couple phones and then it died.
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@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
What do you mean no Verizon version? They were unlocked phones there is no carrier version. Just like unlocked iPhones they work on all carriers GSM or CDMA.
Sure, but Verizon still has it's own frequencies that no other carriers use. LTE I think is pretty open, but the rest aren't - I need to dig into it more to get a full understanding.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
What do you mean no Verizon version? They were unlocked phones there is no carrier version. Just like unlocked iPhones they work on all carriers GSM or CDMA.
Sure, but Verizon still has it's own frequencies that no other carriers use. LTE I think is pretty open, but the rest aren't - I need to dig into it more to get a full understanding.
Yes.. but these support them. Almost every carrirer has some different frequncies. Cellphones now days have dual radios to handle them. Nexus has supported them for a while the 6 was even offically supported by verizon.
Same goes for the iphone there is only one model iphone that works with them all.
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@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
What do you mean no Verizon version? They were unlocked phones there is no carrier version. Just like unlocked iPhones they work on all carriers GSM or CDMA.
Sure, but Verizon still has it's own frequencies that no other carriers use. LTE I think is pretty open, but the rest aren't - I need to dig into it more to get a full understanding.
Yes.. but these support them. Almost every carrirer has some different frequncies. Cellphones now days have dual radios to handle them. Nexus has supported them for a while the 6 was even offically supported by verizon.
Same goes for the iphone there is only one model iphone that works with them all.
That is not true. There were, as of the iPhone 5s, different models of iPhone based on carrier frequencies. I have not personally looked into it on an iPhone 6, 6s, or 7.
Edit: In fact to support my point there is specifically an iPhone 7 for the Japanese market alone with the FeliCa NFC standard.
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@JaredBusch said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
What do you mean no Verizon version? They were unlocked phones there is no carrier version. Just like unlocked iPhones they work on all carriers GSM or CDMA.
Sure, but Verizon still has it's own frequencies that no other carriers use. LTE I think is pretty open, but the rest aren't - I need to dig into it more to get a full understanding.
Yes.. but these support them. Almost every carrirer has some different frequncies. Cellphones now days have dual radios to handle them. Nexus has supported them for a while the 6 was even offically supported by verizon.
Same goes for the iphone there is only one model iphone that works with them all.
That is not true. There were, as of the iPhone 5s, different models of iPhone based on carrier frequencies. I have not personally looked into it on an iPhone 6, 6s, or 7.
Edit: In fact to support my point there is specifically an iPhone 7 for the Japanese market alone with the FeliCa NFC standard.
I was specifically talking about US carriers the Iphone 6, 6s etc all work with US GSM and CDMA carriers.
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@scottalanmiller said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Thanks goodness there aren't any Windows Phone users left out there to be affected by this
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@ChrisL said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Thanks goodness there aren't any Windows Phone users left out there to be affected by this
Maybe they should make exploding Windows Phones. That is about the only way people will talk about Windows Mobile....lol
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@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@JaredBusch said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Jason said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
What do you mean no Verizon version? They were unlocked phones there is no carrier version. Just like unlocked iPhones they work on all carriers GSM or CDMA.
Sure, but Verizon still has it's own frequencies that no other carriers use. LTE I think is pretty open, but the rest aren't - I need to dig into it more to get a full understanding.
Yes.. but these support them. Almost every carrirer has some different frequncies. Cellphones now days have dual radios to handle them. Nexus has supported them for a while the 6 was even offically supported by verizon.
Same goes for the iphone there is only one model iphone that works with them all.
That is not true. There were, as of the iPhone 5s, different models of iPhone based on carrier frequencies. I have not personally looked into it on an iPhone 6, 6s, or 7.
Edit: In fact to support my point there is specifically an iPhone 7 for the Japanese market alone with the FeliCa NFC standard.
I was specifically talking about US carriers the Iphone 6, 6s etc all work with US GSM and CDMA carriers.
Works with is true. But I'm pretty sure that most of those phones only support a narrow subset of the CDMA frequencies (same might go for the GSM frequencies).
The adoption of LTE, which as I understand it use a universal set of frequencies, but I might be completely wrong, is what allows the phones to roam more freely today than in the past. But if you're in an area that doesn't have LTE, you might be stuck without service because of lack of frequency support.
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@stacksofplates said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Windows 10 Mobile
Ah I didn't realize they actually pushed that out to some phones. I thought it was just a couple phones and then it died.
There haven't been a lot of new phones that have been released that come with it natively, but many of the later 8.1 Nokia handsets can, and do.
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@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@stacksofplates said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Windows 10 Mobile
Ah I didn't realize they actually pushed that out to some phones. I thought it was just a couple phones and then it died.
There haven't been a lot of new phones that have been released that come with it natively, but many of the later 8.1 Nokia handsets can, and do.
By the time I gave up my Lumia 650XL AT&T still hadn't pushed out the Windows 10 upgrade (June 2016).
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@ChrisL said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Thanks goodness there aren't any Windows Phone users left out there to be affected by this
Haha! I watched that episode the other day!
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@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@stacksofplates said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Windows 10 Mobile
Ah I didn't realize they actually pushed that out to some phones. I thought it was just a couple phones and then it died.
There haven't been a lot of new phones that have been released that come with it natively, but many of the later 8.1 Nokia handsets can, and do.
By the time I gave up my Lumia 650XL AT&T still hadn't pushed out the Windows 10 upgrade (June 2016).
I bypassed the carrier. With the Insider app you can get your updates directly from Microsoft.
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@brianlittlejohn said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@ChrisL said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@scottalanmiller said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Thanks goodness there aren't any Windows Phone users left out there to be affected by this
Haha! I watched that episode the other day!
Not to devolve this discussion into a Simpsons chat, but I really need to make use of this FXX Simsons World in my downtime. I'm always looking for something light as background noise when I'm doing other work.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Works with is true. But I'm pretty sure that most of those phones only support a narrow subset of the CDMA frequencies (same might go for the GSM frequencies).
Not with iphones 6, 6s etc. for example you can take an AT&T Iphone from GSM, unlock it then use it on Verizon CDMA.
Granted it may not work in other countries.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
The adoption of LTE, which as I understand it use a universal set of frequencies, but I might be completely wrong, is what allows the phones to roam more freely today than in the past. But if you're in an area that doesn't have LTE, you might be stuck without service because of lack of frequency support.
Not really true there as plenty of LTE Bands and not all phones support all of them.
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@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@stacksofplates said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Windows 10 Mobile
Ah I didn't realize they actually pushed that out to some phones. I thought it was just a couple phones and then it died.
There haven't been a lot of new phones that have been released that come with it natively, but many of the later 8.1 Nokia handsets can, and do.
By the time I gave up my Lumia 650XL AT&T still hadn't pushed out the Windows 10 upgrade (June 2016).
I bypassed the carrier. With the Insider app you can get your updates directly from Microsoft.
Yeah I did that with my old 550, and it was great until Jan of 2016 update which made my phone all but useless. I flashed back to 8.1 and didn't look back.
By the time I was ready to give up on ATT (last June) and do what you did - Insider program - Instead I bought a Nexus 6P for my trip and haven't bothered going back.
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@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Dashrender said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@stacksofplates said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
@Kelly said in Windows Phone Apocalypse Has Begun:
Windows 10 Mobile
Ah I didn't realize they actually pushed that out to some phones. I thought it was just a couple phones and then it died.
There haven't been a lot of new phones that have been released that come with it natively, but many of the later 8.1 Nokia handsets can, and do.
By the time I gave up my Lumia 650XL AT&T still hadn't pushed out the Windows 10 upgrade (June 2016).
I bypassed the carrier. With the Insider app you can get your updates directly from Microsoft.
Yeah I did that with my old 550, and it was great until Jan of 2016 update which made my phone all but useless. I flashed back to 8.1 and didn't look back.
By the time I was ready to give up on ATT (last June) and do what you did - Insider program - Instead I bought a Nexus 6P for my trip and haven't bothered going back.
My $40 Lumia 640 has a few quirks, but I can deal with them for the price/performance I get.
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Some of the WP10 updates broke things. There was one that left me unable to use any Hotmail contacts for about 7 weeks. They disappeared after one update, then a bit later came back wouldn't open and I couldn't use them to text/call/email people. Another seemed to lower battery life to less than a day.
Since late summer though there have been no problems I have noticed.
