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    • JaredBuschJ
      JaredBusch @wrx7m
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      @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

      @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

      WTF? Completely different, because MS doesn't do that.

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      • wrx7mW
        wrx7m @JaredBusch
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        @JaredBusch Microsoft doesn't make big changes between versions?

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender
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          Now I'm just lost.

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          • thwrT
            thwr @wrx7m
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            @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

            @JaredBusch Microsoft doesn't make big changes between versions?

            Never. .oO( System Center, SharePoint, ... )

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @wrx7m
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              @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

              @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

              But if you consider software to only be mature when it is "old" and no longer updated... what good software could you ever use?

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              • thwrT
                thwr @scottalanmiller
                last edited by thwr

                @scottalanmiller said in Offline files nightmare:

                @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                But if you consider software to only be mature when it is "old" and no longer updated... what good software could you ever use?

                Symphony/DOS, dBase III, ATARI 400/800 BASIC cartridge

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                • wrx7mW
                  wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller I didn't say that either. There are levels "in-between". Usually big changes introduce bugs or kinks that need to be addressed. Some products' teams handle these better than others, in long betas but others still need a fair amount of work after general release.

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                  • DashrenderD
                    Dashrender @wrx7m
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                    @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                    @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                    I find this hilarious. I recall the days when people wouldn't touch a MS OS until SP1 came out. 1607 is more or less service pack 2. Sadly MS has just been on a horrible ride of bad patches/updates lately!

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                    • scottalanmillerS
                      scottalanmiller @thwr
                      last edited by

                      @thwr said in Offline files nightmare:

                      @scottalanmiller said in Offline files nightmare:

                      @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                      @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                      But if you consider software to only be mature when it is "old" and no longer updated... what good software could you ever use?

                      Symphony/DOS, dBase III, ATARI 400/800 BASIC cartridge

                      And you consider those to be "good"?

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                        @Dashrender said in Offline files nightmare:

                        @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                        @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                        I find this hilarious. I recall the days when people wouldn't touch a MS OS until SP1 came out. 1607 is more or less service pack 2. Sadly MS has just been on a horrible ride of bad patches/updates lately!

                        Yes, it's really just a bad product at this point. That's a totally different concern.

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                        • wrx7mW
                          wrx7m @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in Offline files nightmare:

                          @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                          @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                          I find this hilarious. I recall the days when people wouldn't touch a MS OS until SP1 came out. 1607 is more or less service pack 2. Sadly MS has just been on a horrible ride of bad patches/updates lately!

                          And a lot of people wait to upgrade to a new SP, because why?

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                          • thwrT
                            thwr @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Offline files nightmare:

                            @thwr said in Offline files nightmare:

                            @scottalanmiller said in Offline files nightmare:

                            @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                            @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                            But if you consider software to only be mature when it is "old" and no longer updated... what good software could you ever use?

                            Symphony/DOS, dBase III, ATARI 400/800 BASIC cartridge

                            And you consider those to be "good"?

                            • Atari: Can be compared to a C64. Made my first steps on it.
                            • dBase: The whole inventory and renting management for my Grandfathers video rental store was build using dBase. My first "database" 😉
                            • Symphonie: Well... always hated it.
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                            • JaredBuschJ
                              JaredBusch @wrx7m
                              last edited by JaredBusch

                              @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                              @JaredBusch Microsoft doesn't make big changes between versions?

                              Of course they do, but you said you turn off auto update? That is not versions. That is patching.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @wrx7m
                                last edited by

                                @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                                @Dashrender said in Offline files nightmare:

                                @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                                @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                                I find this hilarious. I recall the days when people wouldn't touch a MS OS until SP1 came out. 1607 is more or less service pack 2. Sadly MS has just been on a horrible ride of bad patches/updates lately!

                                And a lot of people wait to upgrade to a new SP, because why?

                                Because they don't understand how software is made. We talk about that problem all the time. It's an irrational fear and misunderstanding of software maturity.

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                                • wrx7mW
                                  wrx7m @JaredBusch
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                                  @JaredBusch AU= Anniversary Update and not auto update.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @scottalanmiller
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                                    @scottalanmiller said in Offline files nightmare:

                                    @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                                    @Dashrender said in Offline files nightmare:

                                    @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                                    @scottalanmiller Right, and that is why I don't have Windows 10 AU running on any of my users' systems.

                                    I find this hilarious. I recall the days when people wouldn't touch a MS OS until SP1 came out. 1607 is more or less service pack 2. Sadly MS has just been on a horrible ride of bad patches/updates lately!

                                    And a lot of people wait to upgrade to a new SP, because why?

                                    Because they don't understand how software is made. We talk about that problem all the time. It's an irrational fear and misunderstanding of software maturity.

                                    http://www.smbitjournal.com/2014/04/software-versions/

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                                    • JaredBuschJ
                                      JaredBusch @wrx7m
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                                      @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                                      @JaredBusch AU= Anniversary Update and not auto update.

                                      I would not stop that either. It is not a new version.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by

                                        @JaredBusch said in Offline files nightmare:

                                        @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                                        @JaredBusch AU= Anniversary Update and not auto update.

                                        I would not stop that either. It is not a new version.

                                        It's just a larger than normal patch.

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                                        • wrx7mW
                                          wrx7m @scottalanmiller
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                                          @scottalanmiller - I have seen you say this in other threads and I wish it were true. However, look up how many patches/updates just from MS caused wide-spread issues this year. I can say the same for Sophos UTM. I will let others be the beta testers when it comes to my company's production systems.

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                                          • wrx7mW
                                            wrx7m @scottalanmiller
                                            last edited by

                                            @scottalanmiller said in Offline files nightmare:

                                            @JaredBusch said in Offline files nightmare:

                                            @wrx7m said in Offline files nightmare:

                                            @JaredBusch AU= Anniversary Update and not auto update.

                                            I would not stop that either. It is not a new version.

                                            It's just a larger than normal patch.

                                            Either way, MS botched it and I was resting easy.

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