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      krisleslie
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      Yea, I mean even today, as I was tasked with getting some new systems (got overridden for donation from local school) I still preach that whether your the owner or a manager, you shouldn't be purchasing things on your own especially software/hardware. They don't know what to look for other than what sales or their gut tells them. If you try to sit and explain things like requirements and processes then your told its too technical lol.

      I'm sitting here enjoying my evening taking apart a craptacular 10 year old laptop to be told it needs to go in production...really, the price we about to pay for refurbing it cost more than me just outright buying a refurbished modern laptop.....politics

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        dafyre @krisleslie
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        @krisleslie said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

        Yea, I mean even today, as I was tasked with getting some new systems (got overridden for donation from local school) I still preach that whether your the owner or a manager, you shouldn't be purchasing things on your own especially software/hardware. They don't know what to look for other than what sales or their gut tells them. If you try to sit and explain things like requirements and processes then your told its too technical lol.

        I'm sitting here enjoying my evening taking apart a craptacular 10 year old laptop to be told it needs to go in production...really, the price we about to pay for refurbing it cost more than me just outright buying a refurbished modern laptop.....politics

        Plus, you might get better performance out of the $300 walmart special.

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          Dashrender @krisleslie
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          @krisleslie said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

          If you try to sit and explain things like requirements and processes then your told its too technical lol.

          Then don't you think it's even more important that I be involved if it's that technical?

          Seriously, why do you have a job if it's not to steer the company in the best financial direction possible with regards to technology?

          I hope you find another job soon, then on your exit interview you tell them that they should not have an IT person at all. They can save money by hiring consultants only when they need something because clearly they aren't using the IT resources they are paying for.

          I'm also curious what your pay range at the company is? Perhaps you're not really the IT person, but instead you are a bench tech person. It definitely sounds more like they are treating you like a bench tech.

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            Dashrender @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

            @krisleslie said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

            Yea, I mean even today, as I was tasked with getting some new systems (got overridden for donation from local school) I still preach that whether your the owner or a manager, you shouldn't be purchasing things on your own especially software/hardware. They don't know what to look for other than what sales or their gut tells them. If you try to sit and explain things like requirements and processes then your told its too technical lol.

            I'm sitting here enjoying my evening taking apart a craptacular 10 year old laptop to be told it needs to go in production...really, the price we about to pay for refurbing it cost more than me just outright buying a refurbished modern laptop.....politics

            Plus, you might get better performance out of the $300 walmart special.

            If you don't need AD integration, those $300 Walmart specials might just be perfect!

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              krisleslie
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              I need AD only because I lack control over the sites. I spend more time making band-aids than actually a solution. Honestly, for the price range, the 300.00 laptops aren't a smart buy. If they break (which these current generation craptops tend to break more now) they are just chuckable, they aren't meant to be kept.

              We have more than 10 models of laptops and more than 5 models of desktops. The desktops usually aren't a problem but the laptops tend to take more time to deal with. I'm a big advocate of lowering it down to 2-3 models of desktop/laptop.

              While I might try to steer them to the best financial decision, often what I suggest gets overlooked or "forgotten". People run and buy things without approval or any idea if it is even supported. Getting over the politics and power plays from people is hard. Right now, payrange I obviously can't discuss in open, but I'm paid decently but remember, i'm in non profit world. Some logic goes out the door 😞

              We already have consultants (pretty good team I have).

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                krisleslie
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                Trust me, I've had to deal with the bargain deals too much. I don't bother unless I'm forced to. Walmart shouldn't be used unless its for general supplies and even then its kinda just if its an emergency. Amazon, New Egg and even Best Buy do a better job than most retailers. For every laptop Best Buy sells you and it breaks (most likely the screen), it cost more for them to repair it (unless you do it yourself), hence the crappy/wasteful model.

                I personally like to have laptops that are business class, offlease/refurbed, can hold 8 GB or better of ram, multi-core, and last but not least dockable and able to use a SSD. For our business model, they will last 5 years or better until parts become an issue. We don't have high requirements but moving over to full VDI right now is a pipe dream.

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                  scottalanmiller @krisleslie
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                  @krisleslie said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

                  While I might try to steer them to the best financial decision, often what I suggest gets overlooked or "forgotten". People run and buy things without approval or any idea if it is even supported. Getting over the politics and power plays from people is hard. Right now, payrange I obviously can't discuss in open, but I'm paid decently but remember, i'm in non profit world. Some logic goes out the door 😞

                  Start at the top. If the CEO wants to save money, get them to mandate it. If the CEO doesn't care, then you don't care. It's that easy. If wasting money and not doing the best thing for the mission of the non-profit is the mandate from the CEO... then it is your job to waste money and not care.

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                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
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                    @scottalanmiller said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

                    @krisleslie said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

                    While I might try to steer them to the best financial decision, often what I suggest gets overlooked or "forgotten". People run and buy things without approval or any idea if it is even supported. Getting over the politics and power plays from people is hard. Right now, payrange I obviously can't discuss in open, but I'm paid decently but remember, i'm in non profit world. Some logic goes out the door 😞

                    Start at the top. If the CEO wants to save money, get them to mandate it. If the CEO doesn't care, then you don't care. It's that easy. If wasting money and not doing the best thing for the mission of the non-profit is the mandate from the CEO... then it is your job to waste money and not care.

                    This!

                    @krisleslie said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

                    ... but remember, i'm in non profit world. Some logic goes out the door 😞

                    This alone means that the CEO should be doing everything in their power to do things fiscally responsible, and not waste money. Though it's not a legal mandate like it is in public companies, and well, as we see all the time, the reality is that most of these non profits really are about wasting money/resources - out for the good of the management and not the charity they claim to be supporting.

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                      scottalanmiller @Dashrender
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                      @Dashrender said in How Complete is XenServer Really:

                      This alone means that the CEO should be doing everything in their power to do things fiscally responsible, and not waste money. Though it's not a legal mandate like it is in public companies,....

                      That's why lots of people chose the non-profit world. It's the easiest path to pocketing charity contributions. You can take home so much more money than you can in the for-profit world without having to be good at your job, just not bound by the moral obligations of normal society. Non-profits are built almost totally around moving money inappropriately. And the ease of overpaying vendors and getting kickbacks is so high that it is hard to resist.

                      And it is all empowered by the general assumption that non-profit management is inept and illogical - this socially accepted failure to do their jobs becomes the means by which taking the charity contributions home gets hidden.

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