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    • Mike DavisM
      Mike Davis
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      I'm looking at a school that would like about 50 cameras right from the start. The UBNT NVR says it can handle 50 cameras. What do you do if you're going beyond that? Are there specs for what the VM would need if you went that route?

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller
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        What are the specs for the VM that would do 50?

        Is the NVR doing any coding? Normally it is disk needs, not CPU or memory, for NVR solutions that requires a lot of sizing.

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        • gjacobseG
          gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

          What are the specs for the VM that would do 50?

          Is the NVR doing any coding? Normally it is disk needs, not CPU or memory, for NVR solutions that requires a lot of sizing.

          The UBNT NVR is not a VM based system, but a physical device.

          unifinvr-feature-scalability.jpg

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @gjacobse
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            @gjacobse anyone know the specs of it?

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            • gjacobseG
              gjacobse
              last edited by

              Here is a thread on NVR vs Software:

              Unifi NVR Appliance vs Software Install, What is Better

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              • Mike DavisM
                Mike Davis
                last edited by

                I meant downloading the Unifi video software for a VM.

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                • gjacobseG
                  gjacobse @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                  @gjacobse anyone know the specs of it?

                  0_1474906343933_2016-09-26 12_11_55-UniFi Video Datasheet.png

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller
                    last edited by

                    The biggest thing to figure out will be the IOPS needs.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @Mike Davis
                      last edited by

                      @Mike-Davis Just spotted that they only recommend 20 cameras with the appliance. Probably better off using the software on a VM, even if you have to build a server for it.

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                      • Deleted74295D
                        Deleted74295 Banned
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                        50 cameras from the start, so what are they looking for at the most?

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                        • Mike DavisM
                          Mike Davis @Deleted74295
                          last edited by

                          @Breffni-Potter They might add a few more. It's a school and they are talking about adding two more classrooms, so that could 3 or 4 more, but probably not many more than that. It also depends on if the cameras deployed in the initial roll out give them the coverage they are looking for.

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                          • scottalanmillerS
                            scottalanmiller
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                            I think that going over 50 is just going to have to be a bit of an experiment. That's all that there is to it.

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                            • Mike DavisM
                              Mike Davis
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                              I have a server with RAM and CPU on site. I'll probably want to add some drives and see how it goes.

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                              • stacksofplatesS
                                stacksofplates
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                                And if it's too much strain on it, you could make two separate VMs for something like the East and West side.

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                                • K
                                  Kris_K
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                                  I'd rather go increasing the IOPS way (more disks, adding some caching or even switching to full flash if needed, etc.).
                                  Splitting things doesn't make sense unless his host doesn't have enough resources (cpu, ram), can't be upgraded and he needs a second one. But even then, i'd go with a single beefier one.

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                                  • scottalanmillerS
                                    scottalanmiller @Kris_K
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                                    @Kris_K said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                    I'd rather go increasing the IOPS way (more disks, adding some caching or even switching to full flash if needed, etc.).
                                    Splitting things doesn't make sense unless his host doesn't have enough resources (cpu, ram), can't be upgraded and he needs a second one. But even then, i'd go with a single beefier one.

                                    Generally I agree. I just don't know why they stated the 50 camera limit, that doesn't make much sense if more IOPS would solve the issue. I'm worried that there is something problematic in the software.

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                                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                                      @scottalanmiller said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                      @Kris_K said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                      I'd rather go increasing the IOPS way (more disks, adding some caching or even switching to full flash if needed, etc.).
                                      Splitting things doesn't make sense unless his host doesn't have enough resources (cpu, ram), can't be upgraded and he needs a second one. But even then, i'd go with a single beefier one.

                                      Generally I agree. I just don't know why they stated the 50 camera limit, that doesn't make much sense if more IOPS would solve the issue. I'm worried that there is something problematic in the software.

                                      I didn't look at any documentation on the software version, only the appliance. They still give a 50 camera limit on the software?

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                                      • dafyreD
                                        dafyre @travisdh1
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                                        @travisdh1 said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                        @Kris_K said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                        I'd rather go increasing the IOPS way (more disks, adding some caching or even switching to full flash if needed, etc.).
                                        Splitting things doesn't make sense unless his host doesn't have enough resources (cpu, ram), can't be upgraded and he needs a second one. But even then, i'd go with a single beefier one.

                                        Generally I agree. I just don't know why they stated the 50 camera limit, that doesn't make much sense if more IOPS would solve the issue. I'm worried that there is something problematic in the software.

                                        I didn't look at any documentation on the software version, only the appliance. They still give a 50 camera limit on the software?

                                        Check on their forums and see what kind of answers you get... It may juts be that's the recommended maximum or something.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                                          @travisdh1 said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                          @Kris_K said in Ubnt NVR more than 50 cameras:

                                          I'd rather go increasing the IOPS way (more disks, adding some caching or even switching to full flash if needed, etc.).
                                          Splitting things doesn't make sense unless his host doesn't have enough resources (cpu, ram), can't be upgraded and he needs a second one. But even then, i'd go with a single beefier one.

                                          Generally I agree. I just don't know why they stated the 50 camera limit, that doesn't make much sense if more IOPS would solve the issue. I'm worried that there is something problematic in the software.

                                          I didn't look at any documentation on the software version, only the appliance. They still give a 50 camera limit on the software?

                                          Isn't that the ONLY place that it gives the limit?

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                                          • J
                                            Jason Banned
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                                            Just go with an Axis system

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