Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink
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@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
Paper and Digital have short comings they other doesn't.. Paper can survive an EMP, neither like water or fire but can be made to do so.
Digital can too, just depends on the type of storage.
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@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
Digital is just a load of Ones and Zeros.. If you look at truly raw digital you don't see much,.. but if you look at raw paper,.. it can be artistic.
But... that's not useful or indicative.
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@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
Yea,.. we could go back and forth on this for a while.. so ... lets leave it. Both have their merit. While paper is falling out, it still has it's place.
Does it really, though? Bad for the environment, high in cost, more and more expensive to produce with less and less benefit.
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@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
Yea,.. we could go back and forth on this for a while.. so ... lets leave it. Both have their merit. While paper is falling out, it still has it's place.
Does it really, though? Bad for the environment, high in cost, more and more expensive to produce with less and less benefit.
There is cost to both, and cuastic chemical as well.
They use bleach and such to brighten paper, but what do they use to etch the PC boards for computers, batteries with lead, and other heavy metals.
Like I said,... we could go back and forth on this for quite a while..
And yes,.. Paper (different form) still has it's place. unless you want to use the Three Sea Shells
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@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
And yes,.. Paper (different form) still has it's place. unless you want to use the Three Sea Shells
That's your alternative, rather than the bidet with water?
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@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
And yes,.. Paper (different form) still has it's place. unless you want to use the Three Sea Shells
That's your alternative, rather than the bidet with water?
A bidet with carefully calibrated lukewarm water and not that ice cold (or blistering hot) crap I usually wind up with.
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@dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
And yes,.. Paper (different form) still has it's place. unless you want to use the Three Sea Shells
That's your alternative, rather than the bidet with water?
A bidet with carefully calibrated lukewarm water and not that ice cold (or blistering hot) crap I usually wind up with.
How does that happen? I can't remember having a bidet be cold . You just, you know, put the handle in the correct position.
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@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
And yes,.. Paper (different form) still has it's place. unless you want to use the Three Sea Shells
That's your alternative, rather than the bidet with water?
A bidet with carefully calibrated lukewarm water and not that ice cold (or blistering hot) crap I usually wind up with.
How does that happen? I can't remember having a bidet be cold . You just, you know, put the handle in the correct position.
Guess it depends on location.
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@dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@dafyre said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
And yes,.. Paper (different form) still has it's place. unless you want to use the Three Sea Shells
That's your alternative, rather than the bidet with water?
A bidet with carefully calibrated lukewarm water and not that ice cold (or blistering hot) crap I usually wind up with.
How does that happen? I can't remember having a bidet be cold . You just, you know, put the handle in the correct position.
Guess it depends on location.
Another topic that has ended up in the 'crapper'.. I guess I started it thought.
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Printing may go away as a thing at some point in the future, but it won't happen fast. We're still in a system whose principles require hard copy as a backup of a great many things... but that is shrinking. Either way, while I believe that HP has the right to protect their proprietary interests, that's going to bite them in the butt.
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If I could, I would throw all of our printers into the recycle bin, after taking a bat, Office Space-style, to every last mother effing one of them.
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@wrx7m said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
If I could, I would throw all of our printers into the recycle bin, after taking a bat, Office Space-style, to every last mother effing one of them.
That should be the most upvoted post on any topic, right there.
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The new firmware update has cause many - including myself issue. In March 2016 I purchased new ink from iKong on Amazon and didn't really need it until about the end of July.
Last weeks update 'broke' the cartridges I have. Moving forward, I went back to my order to find that the item is not available any longer. There were other listed cartridges reported to work with the new firmware.
Going over the reviews from others that had purchased the iKong pack (950xl/951xl) reported having contacted iKong and had received new cartridges free of charge with updated chips which would work.
As these were less than 1 year old and the experience from others, I contacted iKong and received an apology and offer to try a new set.
The new set should be here next week, and I am out nothing. If they work it's still a good value for the $18.oo spent as the seller / maker has made good on their product.
We will see if they work and for how long. I'm not completely of the mind that it's iKong's place to apologize as the whole debacle starts with HP. However I believe they are going above and beyond in the attempt to make it right.
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@gjacobse did they warn you before applying the firmware update? Do they give you a way to roll back?
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@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse did they warn you before applying the firmware update? Do they give you a way to roll back?
There was no warning that I saw or recall. I don't print everyday, and though the printer sits just inches away, I don't recall anything presenting on the display. As for rolling back, I have not considered that option, but can of course check.
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@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse did they warn you before applying the firmware update? Do they give you a way to roll back?
There was no warning that I saw or recall. I don't print everyday, and though the printer sits just inches away, I don't recall anything presenting on the display. As for rolling back, I have not considered that option, but can of course check.
Did you update it or did it update itself? Or is this simply a time bomb?
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@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse did they warn you before applying the firmware update? Do they give you a way to roll back?
There was no warning that I saw or recall. I don't print everyday, and though the printer sits just inches away, I don't recall anything presenting on the display. As for rolling back, I have not considered that option, but can of course check.
Did you update it or did it update itself? Or is this simply a time bomb?
No action on my part. printer did this upon it's own accord - which I suppose you could consider a time bomb. I'll take a look at the GUI in a moment - have to address an issue.
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@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@scottalanmiller said in Firmware update for HP printers bans third-party ink:
@gjacobse did they warn you before applying the firmware update? Do they give you a way to roll back?
There was no warning that I saw or recall. I don't print everyday, and though the printer sits just inches away, I don't recall anything presenting on the display. As for rolling back, I have not considered that option, but can of course check.
Did you update it or did it update itself? Or is this simply a time bomb?
No action on my part. printer did this upon it's own accord - which I suppose you could consider a time bomb. I'll take a look at the GUI in a moment - have to address an issue.
That's where it crosses into the clearly illegal territory. Designing a device to self destruct is illegal.
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HP Driver and support page shows that the current firmware was published in March 2016, so this may not be 'completely new'
Several other searches report success with downgrading the firmware, but the download isn't direct from HP.
