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      scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

      @JaredBusch said

      This does not matter FFS, forget about AD.

      He said there is another DC. How does it not matter?

      He also said it doesn't work. AD isn't the issue right now.

      Well it might work but he has not easy way to know that right now because DHCP is down. If his DHCP server had handed out this DC as a secondary DNS, then things would still be working. Thus why I assume his DHCP is improperly configured. but again. no way to know that until he brings it back online.

      Oh good point. Yes, it might be fine on its own. But we assume that it's not actively on the domain or that domain members are not aware of it, so it can't cause problem because it is isolated.

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        scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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        @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

        No he said he can't access it.

        He did?

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          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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          @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

          @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

          When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

          You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

          0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

          I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

          So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

          Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

          Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

          log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

          I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

          No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

          They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

          That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

          Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

          That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

          Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

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            JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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            @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

            @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

            No he said he can't access it.

            He did?

            He did not. You are not crazy.

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              scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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              @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

              Hence if he is doing a restore of a DC with another working DC in the domain, it could cause even more issues.

              Or am I totally wrong here?

              There isn't another working DC.

              How do you know that? He said there was one, and the only reason mentioned it might be down was that his PC says "no domain controllers found" but as @JaredBusch has been saying, if DNS is misconfigured, that could also happen, right?

              Okay, yes, it might work if you point to it. But unless machines are pointed at it, it's not working for the machines. So you can't break something as it is not "working" right now.

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                scottalanmiller @JaredBusch
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                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                @wirestyle22 stay focused on the above task ^^^

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                  scottalanmiller
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                  FOrked the topic about the DCs because it's not helping the OP during an outage.

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                    JaredBusch @BRRABill
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                      BRRABill @JaredBusch
                      last edited by

                      @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                      No he said he can't access it.

                      He did?

                      He did not. You are not crazy.

                      He said
                      "I'm assuming we must have had a domain syncing problem before this occurred, otherwise the other domain should have picked everything up as it is round robin. I attempted to disconnect my PC from the domain and reconnect. It claims there are no active directory controllers found."

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                        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                        last edited by wirestyle22

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                        @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                        When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                        You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                        0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                        I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                        So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                        Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                        Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                        log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                        I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                        No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                        They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                        That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                        Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                        That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                        Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                        Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                        https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

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                          JaredBusch @wirestyle22
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                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                          @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                          When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                          You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                          0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                          I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                          So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                          Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                          Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                          log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                          I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                          No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                          They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                          That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                          Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                          That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                          Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                          Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                          https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                          Yes

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                            wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                            last edited by

                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                            @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                            When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                            You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                            0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                            I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                            So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                            Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                            Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                            log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                            I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                            No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                            They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                            That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                            Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                            That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                            Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                            Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                            https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                            Yes

                            Downloading. Thanks.

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                              JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                              last edited by

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                              @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                              When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                              You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                              0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                              I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                              So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                              Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                              Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                              log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                              I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                              No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                              They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                              That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                              Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                              That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                              Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                              Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                              https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                              Yes

                              Downloading. Thanks.

                              You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                              When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

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                                wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                last edited by

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                Yes

                                Downloading. Thanks.

                                You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                                When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                                Good to know. Thank you.

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                                  JaredBusch @wirestyle22
                                  last edited by

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                  @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                  When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                  You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                  0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                  I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                  So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                  Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                  Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                  log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                  I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                  No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                  They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                  That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                  Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                  That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                  Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                  Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                  https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                  Yes

                                  Downloading. Thanks.

                                  You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                                  When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                                  Good to know. Thank you.

                                  You have 5.1 but there are multiple versions of 5.1 just FYI.

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                                    scottalanmiller @BRRABill
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                                    @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    @BRRABill said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                    No he said he can't access it.

                                    He did?

                                    He did not. You are not crazy.

                                    He said
                                    "I'm assuming we must have had a domain syncing problem before this occurred, otherwise the other domain should have picked everything up as it is round robin. I attempted to disconnect my PC from the domain and reconnect. It claims there are no active directory controllers found."

                                    That, in no way, suggests that he cant access it.

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                                      wirestyle22
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                                      My fingers are numb. I hope I don't have an aneurysm

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                                        wirestyle22 @JaredBusch
                                        last edited by wirestyle22

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @scottalanmiller said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @coliver said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @JaredBusch said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                        @wirestyle22 is the VMDK there?

                                        When I attempt to browse it kicks back an error stating "the server could not interpret the users request. the server is unavailable"

                                        You're browsing in the VMWare console? The easiest way to get to it is via:

                                        0_1473355605895_chrome_2016-09-08_13-26-23.png

                                        I'm running version 5.1.0 and I just click on Datastores

                                        So you are using the fat client on your workstation?

                                        Are you logged in with VMWare local account or a domain account?

                                        Because obviously you have domain issues because of the bad DNS setup.

                                        log in to the VMWare client with root and the local password.

                                        I'm logging in with root and the local password actually on the server itself.

                                        No you are not. You said you are using a client. The VMWare server itself only provides a command line interface.

                                        They created a VM called vcenter that uses the client so yes you are correct.

                                        That's not what anyone means when we say to log into the VMware ESXi server itself. That's a client on a VM. Very, very different.

                                        Log into the actual server to remove any unnecessary points of complexity.

                                        That VM is likely jsut running the VMWare vCenter web thing or whatever it is called.

                                        Install the old thick client on your desk and connect to the server directly and browse the data store.

                                        Very close to a breakdown, not that that is any of your problems.

                                        https://kb.vmware.com/selfservice/microsites/search.do?language=en_US&cmd=displayKC&externalId=2089791 is this what you are referring to? If not, where can I locate the thick client?

                                        Yes

                                        Downloading. Thanks.

                                        You may well hav issues connecting without the right version.

                                        When I was managing a number of ESXi hosts, I had to install that thing 4 times on my laptop for it to properly connect to each version

                                        Good to know. Thank you.

                                        You have 5.1 but there are multiple versions of 5.1 just FYI.

                                        Installed. Logged in using root.

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                                          RamblingBiped @wirestyle22
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                                          @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                          My fingers are numb. I hope I don't have an aneurysm

                                          Take a step back, breath, and focus. This isn't anything to be stressed THAT much over. At the end of the day it's all just a heap of metal. You've isolated your problem, you're just working on what you need to do to fix it.

                                          1. restore the original failed VM to working order

                                          If that doesn't pan out all you need to do is get a DHCP server up and running and point it at your secondary DC for DNS.

                                          The more stressed you are the more that stress is going to reverberate through your office/users. You've got quite a few people here to help with the troubleshooting, you'll get through it.

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                                            scottalanmiller @wirestyle22
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                                            @wirestyle22 said in Domain Controller Down (VM):

                                            My fingers are numb. I hope I don't have an aneurysm

                                            Get a beer, relax. Seriously, or decaf tea or something. Take the time to breath. You should not be overly stressed here.

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