What Are You Doing Right Now
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
playing with Oracle virtualbox and PFSense router setup on 2 different routers. Then a Vm with Windows 10, and getting it to the internet.
so far, I got one PFSense Router installed on virutal box..
Not sure how much longer I'll play with this tonight though.. was discouraging at first..Its been a while since I setup pfsense in Virtualbox. Nowadays I've only used it on Hyper-V, (Choose your Linux distro) KVM, and Proxmox.
I would, but I dont have the Windows 10 Pro Version..
It was pretty confusing at first, but I think I got it figured out.
Time will tell.That's why lots of us use KVM. Free, don't have to be those rich Windows users flaunting their money and we still get enterprise virtualization
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Scratching my head on IIS url redirect to https from http.
Doesn't seem to work so I must have something screwed up
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
playing with Oracle virtualbox and PFSense router setup on 2 different routers. Then a Vm with Windows 10, and getting it to the internet.
so far, I got one PFSense Router installed on virutal box..
Not sure how much longer I'll play with this tonight though.. was discouraging at first..Its been a while since I setup pfsense in Virtualbox. Nowadays I've only used it on Hyper-V, (Choose your Linux distro) KVM, and Proxmox.
I would, but I dont have the Windows 10 Pro Version..
It was pretty confusing at first, but I think I got it figured out.
Time will tell.That's why lots of us use KVM. Free, don't have to be those rich Windows users flaunting their money and we still get enterprise virtualization
When I get a second device in the near future, that's a strong possibility to move to, but This is not my device. So i can't change much..
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Just bought wife this laptop for her late anniversary present from Insight. Thankyou Yonah and Scott for getting me set up.
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That's why lots of us use KVM. Free, don't have to be those rich Windows users flaunting their money and we still get enterprise virtualization
I wish more manufacturers would sell laptops with NO OS. Sure, I could buy a System76 with PopOS but I'd rather just be able to start with a clean slate. Sure, a laptop with W10 Home would work to wipe but regardless you are still paying for a MS license in there somewhere. Plus, the better models ship with Pro which costs more. Even if the MS licenses are heavily discounted to the Dell and HP of the world, but the cost is still there somewhere. Just my $.02
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@brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I could buy a System76 with PopOS but I'd rather just be able to start with a clean slate.
I guarantee that they will do that. They offer OS choice as it is. Just tell them you want one blank.
BUT, the reason that no one sells blank is because it verifies the hardware. If you have no OS, your hardware can't have been tested. So you don't actually want that. Installing over an OS takes no more effort than starting blank, so shouldn't matter.
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@scottalanmiller True, but if I buy a Dell laptop with W10 Home edition, and I install Fedora Workstation on it, completely wiping away Windows - There is no guarantee of Fedora working on it just because Windows 10 did. I know that going in, that it may not work. That is a risk I the consumer would have to make.
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@brandon220 In my experience, take it with grain of salt, but I think Fedora or any mainstream Linux is more likely to work and have fewer issues.
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@jmoore That is my point about purchasing with NO OS. Its almost guaranteed to work. I have loaded different flavors of linux over the years and over a broad range of hardware. I don't recall any issues that would prevent me from trying it again.
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@brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller True, but if I buy a Dell laptop with W10 Home edition, and I install Fedora Workstation on it, completely wiping away Windows - There is no guarantee of Fedora working on it just because Windows 10 did. I know that going in, that it may not work. That is a risk I the consumer would have to make.
That's a totally different problem than I'm mentioning, though. I'm talking about literally testing that specific piece of hardware. "Does the harddrive spin, is the RAM good, etc." That's why they always install "something" so that they can prove that it fires up and functions.
That's why if you choose "NO OS" from HPE, you still get FreeDOS.
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@scottalanmiller Yes, I would expect the unit to be 100% functioning and all the hardware verified. I can buy a server with no disks, no OS, etc, and I am sure they still tested the hardware before shipping. If I buy a Server from HPE or Dell with no disks, they can't ship it to me with FreeDOS pre-installed.
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mother in law is moving into a new house. she used to be an hour+ away from us. now she is 20 minutes away.
/wrists
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@wirestyle22 My MIL lives across the street. I am a PRO at ignoring her. Don't even know she is there. She rarely comes over too. If she does, I just go to my shop.
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@brandon220 Laura's family never cut the umbilical cord
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@brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jmoore That is my point about purchasing with NO OS. Its almost guaranteed to work. I have loaded different flavors of linux over the years and over a broad range of hardware. I don't recall any issues that would prevent me from trying it again.
Well I see a lot of hardware and get a lot every year that comes dead, even with an OS loaded already. If your luckier than I, then yay lol. My luck may just suck too.
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@brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
to start with a clean slate. Sure, a laptop with W10 Home would work to wipe but regardless you are still paying for a MS
Actually the costs difference for No OS versus Windows OS could huge, and cost you money.
Dell could, for example, pay MS $30 for Home edition, and then get paid $50 to put all that junkware on there.You remove the OS and suddenly the computer could cost you $20 more. I'm saying could.. I have no clue what those people pay OEMs to install junkware.
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@Dashrender I am just tired of all the garbage that gets installed with every update, and every time a new user logs in. If I remove all of the bloatware, and then do a release upgrade - it all comes back. Updates take forever and fail more often than not. I am referring to higher priced workstations too. Still takes way too long. The whole update process is a failure.
I don't need a Phone Plans app, an XBox App, A My Phone App, etc. The list goes on.
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@brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller Yes, I would expect the unit to be 100% functioning and all the hardware verified. I can buy a server with no disks, no OS, etc, and I am sure they still tested the hardware before shipping. If I buy a Server from HPE or Dell with no disks, they can't ship it to me with FreeDOS pre-installed.
Right, but servers aren't for consumers. They go to IT. Consumers getting a laptop with no OS will be confused and make the whole thing cost more. So you end up paying more, rather than less. So you'd literally have to pay, for not having an OS.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
to start with a clean slate. Sure, a laptop with W10 Home would work to wipe but regardless you are still paying for a MS
Actually the costs difference for No OS versus Windows OS could huge, and cost you money.
Dell could, for example, pay MS $30 for Home edition, and then get paid $50 to put all that junkware on there.You remove the OS and suddenly the computer could cost you $20 more. I'm saying could.. I have no clue what those people pay OEMs to install junkware.
Yeah, it's potentially a negative cost.
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@brandon220 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender I am just tired of all the garbage that gets installed with every update, and every time a new user logs in. If I remove all of the bloatware, and then do a release upgrade - it all comes back. Updates take forever and fail more often than not. I am referring to higher priced workstations too. Still takes way too long. The whole update process is a failure.
I don't need a Phone Plans app, an XBox App, A My Phone App, etc. The list goes on.
I hear ya - but that has nothing to do with the hardware manufacturer (unless you're buying MS hardware) and everything to do with Microsoft - so not sure how that relates to how you want to buy a system with no OS?
