What Are You Doing Right Now
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I've never seen Heavy Metal
Sad life you have had, yes?
LOL apparently
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
is Disney Plus worth it?
you have a small child - most would say yes.. unless you're scott, then you'd say no because you hate disney.
No.
Because my KIDS hate Disney.
They don't like Disney movies, nor do they like Star Wars (and I've tried.) They liked the first three and once they saw the newer ones, won't watch it any more. Nor do they like Marvell (and my wife tries hard to convince them of that one.)
And as far as your kids hating it - that's so.... so.... odd. I don't know of any other kids that hate disney, especially girls... makes me wonder what happened there?
They didn't go to public school and do it out of peer pressure. They were left to determine what they liked without all of the advertising and peers telling them what was and wasn't cool.
I suppose - and now they will be left out of cultural references that others will get as they grow up because they didn't watch them. I've never seen Heavy Metal, and apparently I miss things because of it. as a single example.
I've tried watching it sense.... man it's just horrible!Surprisingly, very few people seem to reference Disney movies that much. That's very generational. Disney movies aren't the big things that they were when we were teens. That era has passed. I don't even know that Disney is making them any longer, or very often at least.
What's funny is their cousins who ARE big Disney movie fans, it turns out didn't get references anyway because of weird misunderstandings of the movies
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
is Disney Plus worth it?
Depends on if you like Disney movies or properties. It is quickly going to be the only place you can find Star Wars, Marvel, animated, etc.
Exactly, is very content specific and isn't going to change, unlike Netflix or Hulu which are more general and will change over time as to what they offer.
If this is true, then D+ won't last. Disney owns Hulu now, maybe even exclusively... I could see them bringing them all together in one if D+ looses viewers after the first three years (and only three years because of the D23 deal they sold several months ago - so a ton of people have it for 3 years already)
I don't see that being true. For me, sure because the things I want to see are SO rare. But for most D+ non-free users, I don't see that happening. The catalogue is crazy, and that audience has a tendency to think of their payments as "donations" to support it. So aren't looking to find ways to trim the small cost. And there are certain things that fans will want to watch over and over that aren't anywhere else.
Will it lose some people because of the limited scope of the catalogue? Obviously, because I'm gone once it isn't free. So that's easy to prove. but thinking I'm anything but the minority would be a big mistake, i think.
Interesting - In my circles I've already heard people talking about what other service they have to dump so they can get D+... so if someone else comes along with another station that has more of what they want, I can totally see D+ being dumped.
That would be logical if it weren't Disney we were talking about. It's not the content alone that draws people, but the cult-like cultural system around it.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
is Disney Plus worth it?
you have a small child - most would say yes.. unless you're scott, then you'd say no because you hate disney.
No.
Because my KIDS hate Disney.
They don't like Disney movies, nor do they like Star Wars (and I've tried.) They liked the first three and once they saw the newer ones, won't watch it any more. Nor do they like Marvell (and my wife tries hard to convince them of that one.)
And as far as your kids hating it - that's so.... so.... odd. I don't know of any other kids that hate disney, especially girls... makes me wonder what happened there?
They didn't go to public school and do it out of peer pressure. They were left to determine what they liked without all of the advertising and peers telling them what was and wasn't cool.
I suppose - and now they will be left out of cultural references that others will get as they grow up because they didn't watch them. I've never seen Heavy Metal, and apparently I miss things because of it. as a single example.
I've tried watching it sense.... man it's just horrible!Surprisingly, very few people seem to reference Disney movies that much. That's very generational. Disney movies aren't the big things that they were when we were teens. That era has passed. I don't even know that Disney is making them any longer, or very often at least.
What's funny is their cousins who ARE big Disney movie fans, it turns out didn't get references anyway because of weird misunderstandings of the movies
Now that's funny!
But you might be right - but - well the current Disney movie is Frozen 2... I'm sure you've at least heard of Frozen - if not Frozen 2.
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Here is a simple test....
How does Scott see Netflix? Great service, good price, content makes sense to me.
How does Scott see Hulu? Netflix wanna be, decent, lots of glitches, acceptable if nothing else comes along.
How does Scott see D+? Steaming garbage with content so unwanted that I'd prefer not to have the service that to have to filter through it.Why do I feel that way? Mostly because of the cult-like obsessive behaviour that society has around the content there. So while my personal feelings on it are that it's the worst content out there of any service; it's that very fact that makes it so attractive to most people. This is a case where reading me is actually a handy guide. The way that I feel about it... that even free I don't want it; is the flag that there is likely something here so sticky that likely it is going to stick around and succeed even against theoretical future competitors with more content.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Kelly said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
is Disney Plus worth it?
Depends on if you like Disney movies or properties. It is quickly going to be the only place you can find Star Wars, Marvel, animated, etc.
Exactly, is very content specific and isn't going to change, unlike Netflix or Hulu which are more general and will change over time as to what they offer.
If this is true, then D+ won't last. Disney owns Hulu now, maybe even exclusively... I could see them bringing them all together in one if D+ looses viewers after the first three years (and only three years because of the D23 deal they sold several months ago - so a ton of people have it for 3 years already)
I don't see that being true. For me, sure because the things I want to see are SO rare. But for most D+ non-free users, I don't see that happening. The catalogue is crazy, and that audience has a tendency to think of their payments as "donations" to support it. So aren't looking to find ways to trim the small cost. And there are certain things that fans will want to watch over and over that aren't anywhere else.
Will it lose some people because of the limited scope of the catalogue? Obviously, because I'm gone once it isn't free. So that's easy to prove. but thinking I'm anything but the minority would be a big mistake, i think.
Interesting - In my circles I've already heard people talking about what other service they have to dump so they can get D+... so if someone else comes along with another station that has more of what they want, I can totally see D+ being dumped.
That would be logical if it weren't Disney we were talking about. It's not the content alone that draws people, but the cult-like cultural system around it.
So what, you're saying that people won't leave D+ because of said cult-like following?
I will admit - I only bought D+ because I want to support the making of more SW TV shows, etc. I have options for obtaining the small amount of content i actually want, but I felt voting for things I wanted with my pocketbook was worthwhile in this case - plus actually watching with their app will give them the direct feedback of consumption, hopefully leading to more productions.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
But you might be right - but - well the current Disney movie is Frozen 2... I'm sure you've at least heard of Frozen - if not Frozen 2.
Sure, but when is there a cultural reference to it. Ah yes, that IS a current Disney movie. My kids didn't want to see it (I'm sure there will if it is at home sometime.) They weren't big into the original. They liked it, but ... they aren't movie kids.
That's, I think, the biggest thing. Kids today (not just mine) aren't movie obsessed like previous generations. Media formats are changing and super short form and super long form are becoming the big hits. the 1.5-3 hour traditional movie format seems to be the format taking the biggest hit. It's exactly the length that people don't want to day.
If I'm in a hurry I was 10 minute youtube or 25 minute Netflix length. If I have more time, I want to get invested and a single movie is too short.
movies fall into a weird middle ground of too long to be casual, too short to be serious.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So what, you're saying that people won't leave D+ because of said cult-like following?
Yes, the same thing that makes me feel disgusted to have access to it. There is a huge difference between a system full of worthless content, and content that makes me feel kind of bad to have exist. It's that "who cares what it is, I love it because it is Disney" reaction that makes me actually dislike it.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I only bought D+ because I want to support the making of more SW TV shows, etc. I have options for obtaining the small amount of content i actually want, but I felt voting for things I wanted with my pocketbook was worthwhile in this case - plus actually watching with their app will give them the direct feedback of consumption, hopefully leading to more productions.
And while you do that for SW,others will do it for Disney proper, others for Marvell, etc. D+ is specifically the collection of properties that garner that reaction. Plus National Geographic for some reason.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
re changing and super short form and super long form are becoming the big hits. the 1.5-3 hour traditional movie format seem
I actually understand and agree with this.
oh and i'm leaving this broken quote here to show that years later - ML is still doing this to me when I quote posts - 90% of the time, the first time I quote something, it's broken, I discard and quote again and it's fine.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I only bought D+ because I want to support the making of more SW TV shows, etc. I have options for obtaining the small amount of content i actually want, but I felt voting for things I wanted with my pocketbook was worthwhile in this case - plus actually watching with their app will give them the direct feedback of consumption, hopefully leading to more productions.
And while you do that for SW,others will do it for Disney proper, others for Marvell, etc. D+ is specifically the collection of properties that garner that reaction. Plus National Geographic for some reason.
yeah I don't get the Nat Geo thing... it's that brand dead? I'm sure your kids barely if at all know what it is.
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Today's IT insight....
For a developer, having to work in VB.NET is like being a professional plumber but getting called in just to plunge a stuck toilet that's full of... you know.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Here is a simple test....
How does Scott see Netflix? Great service, good price, content makes sense to me.
How does Scott see Hulu? Netflix wanna be, decent, lots of glitches, acceptable if nothing else comes along.
How does Scott see D+? Steaming garbage with content so unwanted that I'd prefer not to have the service that to have to filter through it.How does Dash see Netflix? - has Scott sees most of D+, full of worthless crap, with so much junk in there you get annoyed long before you actually find anything you want to watch. I've watched a reasonable number of Netflix originals - The Toys that a Made us/The movies that made us
How does Dash see Hulu? - as a cable replacement, the weekly serials for many channels (save CBS - bastards) I rarely watch any hulu originals, though my wife does/has.
How does Dash see D+? mostly was a way to watch The Mandalorian. I have watched their series on Disney Imagineering - the making of the Disney parks.. that was pretty cool.. and I've scrolled through, but not watched, the old 20's, 30's, etc cartoon listings... that was cool for a min, but I could have done that for free on the interwebs if I really cared that much. -
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
How does Dash see Netflix? - has Scott sees most of D+, full of worthless crap, with so much junk in there you get annoyed long before you actually find anything you want to watch. I've watched a reasonable number of Netflix originals - The Toys that a Made us/The movies that made us
Originals are just part of the story, you have to look at the full selection. Yeah, it's full of bad stuff for sure, but also has some really good content.
Netflix is terrible to sort, though.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
How does Dash see Netflix? - has Scott sees most of D+, full of worthless crap, with so much junk in there you get annoyed long before you actually find anything you want to watch. I've watched a reasonable number of Netflix originals - The Toys that a Made us/The movies that made us
Originals are just part of the story, you have to look at the full selection. Yeah, it's full of bad stuff for sure, but also has some really good content.
Netflix is terrible to sort, though.
I wish there was a way to suppress things - I never want to see this listing again.... that could likely go a long way to clean it up.
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Checking back over here.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
New GB trailer
I'm really looking forward to this.
I like how they have played things off as it did happen but then was over.
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@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
New GB trailer
Looks interesting
Anyone else notice there hasn't been an original idea is half a decade?
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@WrCombs said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
New GB trailer
Looks interesting
Anyone else notice there hasn't been an original idea is half a decade?
maybe not literally half a decade, but close enough. just remake after remake after sequel after prequel, after remake.
Not a single original Idea has surfaced for Movies/Entertainment.
