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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
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      @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

      But you claim things like this all of the time.

      That doesn't mean the information is wrong. It's not, unless that research has suddenly turned around, but that isn't possible due to the nature of it.

      Actually that's backwards. So little is known about medicine, health, and diet that there is extremely little science in it and what people often think are facts often turn out to be old wives tales. There is actually extremely little that we actually know.

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      • EddieJenningsE
        EddieJennings
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        Goal achieved: client (Outlook) connected to Zimbra via IMAP. Amazing what happens when you finally stop overlooking opening TCP 993 on the VM's firewall.

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        • DashrenderD
          Dashrender @scottalanmiller
          last edited by

          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          But you claim things like this all of the time.

          That doesn't mean the information is wrong. It's not, unless that research has suddenly turned around, but that isn't possible due to the nature of it.

          Actually that's backwards. So little is known about medicine, health, and diet that there is extremely little science in it and what people often think are facts often turn out to be old wives tales. There is actually extremely little that we actually know.

          Agreed - if there isn't money to be made - who's going to bother with the research. This is why good health, preemptive health is something very few actually care about.

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          • black3dynamiteB
            black3dynamite
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            Yeah baby yeah! Banana Bread
            It’s been awhile since I made these.

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            • ObsolesceO
              Obsolesce @scottalanmiller
              last edited by

              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              But you claim things like this all of the time.

              That doesn't mean the information is wrong. It's not, unless that research has suddenly turned around, but that isn't possible due to the nature of it.

              Actually that's backwards. So little is known about medicine, health, and diet that there is extremely little science in it and what people often think are facts often turn out to be old wives tales. There is actually extremely little that we actually know.

              It's hard to argue with results, studies, and the science of it presently... I was referring to white rice and potatoes, and cheese, specifically. We already know the results of this, and they are conclusive. Do you feel it's possible scientists will suddenly say "Yes, we were totally wrong about white rice... gobble that shit up as much as you can! You'll live a longer and healthier life!"?

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              • CloudKnightC
                CloudKnight @EddieJennings
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                @EddieJennings said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                Goal achieved: client (Outlook) connected to Zimbra via IMAP. Amazing what happens when you finally stop overlooking opening TCP 993 on the VM's firewall.

                Give Activesync a try Eddie:
                https://mangolassi.it/topic/18369/setup-z-push-for-zimbra-8

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                • hobbit666H
                  hobbit666
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                  Planning a network change and moving people over to a new VLAN as we are running low on IP's on the main range.

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                  • tonyshowoffT
                    tonyshowoff @hobbit666
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                    @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    Planning a network change and moving people over to a new VLAN as we are running low on IP's on the main range.

                    Is there a reason so many IT people create VLANs instead of just widening the subnet? Presuming, of course you're adding it just because of the IP address exhaustion, not for other reasons like security. It just seems to me to be adding needless complexity in that case.

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                    • hobbit666H
                      hobbit666 @tonyshowoff
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                      @tonyshowoff Yeah constantly freeing up IP's lately due to the increase of devices on the network.
                      VLAN because we can't expand the IP subnet due to poor IP design on other sites (not me btw 🙂 )

                      HO is 10.0.1.X
                      but all the other sites are set to 10.0.2.0 10.0.3.0 10.0.4.0 etc.

                      Can't change the main 10.0.1.0 range as a lot of devices are on this and can't be changed "easily" so planning on VLAN'n all Desktop and Laptops to another range completely. Phones are already on a guest network on separate IP

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                      • coliverC
                        coliver @Obsolesce
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                        @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        potatoes rather than better proven and studied alternatives like sweet potatoes

                        There is actual very little evidence that sweet potatoes are better the white potatoes. It depends on the individual, their dietary needs, how well they process sugar and carbs etc.

                        The reality is we often associate white potatoes with fried food and sweet potatoes with grilled or baked. If we cooked them in the same fashion they'd have similar dietary effects. https://universityhealthnews.com/daily/nutrition/sweet-potatoes-vs-potatoes/

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                        • scottalanmillerS
                          scottalanmiller @Dashrender
                          last edited by

                          @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          But you claim things like this all of the time.

                          That doesn't mean the information is wrong. It's not, unless that research has suddenly turned around, but that isn't possible due to the nature of it.

                          Actually that's backwards. So little is known about medicine, health, and diet that there is extremely little science in it and what people often think are facts often turn out to be old wives tales. There is actually extremely little that we actually know.

                          Agreed - if there isn't money to be made - who's going to bother with the research. This is why good health, preemptive health is something very few actually care about.

                          Loads of people care, but the people who would be the recipients of the knowledge, not the ones creating it. Creators have incentive to compete for sponsors or other money making schemes.

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                          • travisdh1T
                            travisdh1 @tonyshowoff
                            last edited by

                            @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            @hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                            Planning a network change and moving people over to a new VLAN as we are running low on IP's on the main range.

                            Is there a reason so many IT people create VLANs instead of just widening the subnet? Presuming, of course you're adding it just because of the IP address exhaustion, not for other reasons like security. It just seems to me to be adding needless complexity in that case.

                            It IS adding extra complexity. From what I've seen, many IT people like lots of complex network setups for no good reason.

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @Obsolesce
                              last edited by

                              @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              But you claim things like this all of the time.

                              That doesn't mean the information is wrong. It's not, unless that research has suddenly turned around, but that isn't possible due to the nature of it.

                              Actually that's backwards. So little is known about medicine, health, and diet that there is extremely little science in it and what people often think are facts often turn out to be old wives tales. There is actually extremely little that we actually know.

                              It's hard to argue with results, studies, and the science of it presently... I was referring to white rice and potatoes, and cheese, specifically. We already know the results of this, and they are conclusive. Do you feel it's possible scientists will suddenly say "Yes, we were totally wrong about white rice... gobble that shit up as much as you can! You'll live a longer and healthier life!"?

                              That's just silly. It's so easy to argue with the results that all of the studies already argue with each other. Everything people call "conclusive" today is considered "made up" tomorrow. Not just in food, but all areas of science. We change was is "conclusive" constantly. All depends on who is sponsoring the research.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller @coliver
                                last edited by

                                @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                potatoes rather than better proven and studied alternatives like sweet potatoes

                                There is actual very little evidence that sweet potatoes are better the white potatoes. It depends on the individual, their dietary needs, how well they process sugar and carbs etc.

                                The reality is we often associate white potatoes with fried food and sweet potatoes with grilled or baked. If we cooked them in the same fashion they'd have similar dietary effects. https://universityhealthnews.com/daily/nutrition/sweet-potatoes-vs-potatoes/

                                See, easy to argue and the "conclusive studies" don't agree with each other.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
                                  last edited by

                                  It only takes a second to find countless articles claiming white rice is good for you, for example..

                                  https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-white-rice-bad-for-you
                                  https://www.practo.com/healthfeed/which-rice-is-best-for-losing-weight-3529/post
                                  https://www.verywellfit.com/lifters-still-choose-white-rice-over-brown-3121319
                                  https://fearlesseating.net/why-white-rice-is-good-for-you/
                                  https://www.25doctors.com/is-white-rice-bad-for-you

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                                  • DashrenderD
                                    Dashrender @scottalanmiller
                                    last edited by

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    @JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                    But you claim things like this all of the time.

                                    That doesn't mean the information is wrong. It's not, unless that research has suddenly turned around, but that isn't possible due to the nature of it.

                                    Actually that's backwards. So little is known about medicine, health, and diet that there is extremely little science in it and what people often think are facts often turn out to be old wives tales. There is actually extremely little that we actually know.

                                    Agreed - if there isn't money to be made - who's going to bother with the research. This is why good health, preemptive health is something very few actually care about.

                                    Loads of people care, but the people who would be the recipients of the knowledge, not the ones creating it. Creators have incentive to compete for sponsors or other money making schemes.

                                    If enough caring people were willing to pay for the knowledge, then the creators would do it... I'm guessing those who care, aren't willing to pay.

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                                    • tonyshowoffT
                                      tonyshowoff @scottalanmiller
                                      last edited by

                                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                      It only takes a second to find countless articles claiming white rice is good for you, for example..

                                      https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-white-rice-bad-for-you
                                      https://www.practo.com/healthfeed/which-rice-is-best-for-losing-weight-3529/post
                                      https://www.verywellfit.com/lifters-still-choose-white-rice-over-brown-3121319
                                      https://fearlesseating.net/why-white-rice-is-good-for-you/
                                      https://www.25doctors.com/is-white-rice-bad-for-you

                                      I don't eat anything my ancient ancestors did not eat. As a result I am starving due to lack of megafauna to hunt.

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                                      • hobbit666H
                                        hobbit666
                                        last edited by

                                        Off to one of our sites to test a network point and re"end" see if that fixes it. Also test and check phone points.

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                                        • tonyshowoffT
                                          tonyshowoff @tonyshowoff
                                          last edited by

                                          @tonyshowoff said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          It only takes a second to find countless articles claiming white rice is good for you, for example..

                                          https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/is-white-rice-bad-for-you
                                          https://www.practo.com/healthfeed/which-rice-is-best-for-losing-weight-3529/post
                                          https://www.verywellfit.com/lifters-still-choose-white-rice-over-brown-3121319
                                          https://fearlesseating.net/why-white-rice-is-good-for-you/
                                          https://www.25doctors.com/is-white-rice-bad-for-you

                                          I don't eat anything my ancient ancestors did not eat. As a result I am starving due to lack of megafauna to hunt.

                                          Update: the culture in my house just developed agriculture, but have yet to domesticate wild oxen to increase planting productivity. We did, however, move from excarnation to cremation.

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                                          • ObsolesceO
                                            Obsolesce @coliver
                                            last edited by

                                            @coliver said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @Obsolesce said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            potatoes rather than better proven and studied alternatives like sweet potatoes

                                            There is actual very little evidence that sweet potatoes are better the white potatoes. It depends on the individual, their dietary needs, how well they process sugar and carbs etc.

                                            The reality is we often associate white potatoes with fried food and sweet potatoes with grilled or baked. If we cooked them in the same fashion they'd have similar dietary effects. https://universityhealthnews.com/daily/nutrition/sweet-potatoes-vs-potatoes/

                                            Here's the path to the study in that article:
                                            https://universityhealthnews.com/daily/nutrition/are-potatoes-healthy-new-study-finds-an-alarming-risk/
                                            then:
                                            http://care.diabetesjournals.org/content/early/2015/12/09/dc15-0547

                                            According to the articles, it says if you are already eating a perfect whole-foods based diet, only THEN white potatoes have a neutral effect on diabetes, and may decrease the risk.

                                            And yet again, another study that verifies my diet suggestions.

                                            So yeah, this just shows that if you do everything perfectly, one minor not-so-perfect thing shouldn't have much or any negative effect.

                                            Are YOU eating a perfect diet? I know I don't, therefore I'll keep white potatoes to a minimum (I'm not perfect either), and continue to suggest they are avoided.

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