What Are You Doing Right Now
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Given up on Unitrends and Hyper-V. Now considering dumping Hyper-V and going back to either ESXi Free or using XCP-ng
Hyper-V and Veeam work great.
So does Hyper-V and Altaro I think it is.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Given up on Unitrends and Hyper-V. Now considering dumping Hyper-V and going back to either ESXi Free or using XCP-ng
I know you and I have had this conversation in the past, but why ESXi Free edition?
Literally every other type 1 hypervisor offers more for the same "free" cost so it shouldn't be a consideration as with the free edition you don't get any of the features that people must choose (and pay) VMware for.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Given up on Unitrends and Hyper-V. Now considering dumping Hyper-V and going back to either ESXi Free or using XCP-ng
Altaro works pretty well with Hyper-V.
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@dustinb3403 I know. Was just throwing names around
Think XCP-NG is going to be the best option at the moment, with XenOrch.@JaredBusch The only thing that puts me off Veeam is it needs a Windows Machine to install the software on. The host that needs backing up only runs Linux servers, like NGINX, SnipeIT, Zabbix etc so i don't want to "pay" for a windows license just for backups.
Was hoping to have a "appliance" type install and do agentless backups. Hence trying Unitrends
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It's Friday Eve, Hope you have a good day..
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Morning everyone. Getting caught up on tickets. Messing with powershell, and imaging desktops.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 I know. Was just throwing names around
Think XCP-NG is going to be the best option at the moment, with XenOrch.@JaredBusch The only thing that puts me off Veeam is it needs a Windows Machine to install the software on. The host that needs backing up only runs Linux servers, like NGINX, SnipeIT, Zabbix etc so i don't want to "pay" for a windows license just for backups.
Was hoping to have a "appliance" type install and do agentless backups. Hence trying Unitrends
Altaro can be installed directly on the Hyper-V Server.
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@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Altaro can be installed directly on the Hyper-V Server.
But only protects 2 VMs on the free version
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@black3dynamite said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Altaro can be installed directly on the Hyper-V Server.
But only protects 2 VMs on the free version
If the goal is a free backup solution and to use Hyper-V, why not veeam free using VeeamZip.
Is agentless a set-in-stone requirement?
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And I'm not saying don't use XCP-ng or XenServer with XO, just asking to probe for more details.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the goal is a free backup solution and to use Hyper-V, why not veeam free using VeeamZip.
Is agentless a set-in-stone requirement?
Agentless is preferred as i need something i can just "hand over" if i leave or someone needs to restore as i don't want people having to install extra software into VM's. As most people here are "Windows" men, i wouldn't trust them in a Linux environment
As mentioned the host runs just Linux based machines so don't want to go out and buy a Win license just for the backup software.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
And I'm not saying don't use XCP-ng or XenServer with XO, just asking to probe for more details.
Think i'm going to stick with this. As i can write some simple instructions on installing the host and XO.
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@hobbit666 so the goal is "Windows Simple" not agentless, if you were being honest.
Which UrBackup is "Windows Simple", install an agent and it connects to the server (which can run on Windows or Linux) and by default backs up pretty much everything.
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@dustinb3403 No all the VM's are Linux. I don't want "Windows" people logging in and trying to install agents
Veeam B&R "server" needs to be on a Windows machine, i don't want to pay for a Server License just to run backup software.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Agentless is preferred as i need something i can just "hand over" if i leave or someone needs to restore as i don't want people having to install extra software into VM's. As most people here are "Windows" men, i wouldn't trust them in a Linux environment
This sound counterproductive to what you want than. Linux is simple and damn stable if it's known how to use the system.
Going with XO and XCP-ng is the polar opposite of your complaint about the "Windows men" though. While Hyper-V isn't Windows, it can look and feel exactly like Windows.
This might be worth a separate discussion though.
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 No all the VM's are Linux. I don't want "Windows" people logging in and trying to install agents
Veeam B&R "server" needs to be on a Windows machine, i don't want to pay for a Server License just to run backup software.
Why would you have them install the agent, just have it as a part of the template and it's already there when any new VM is created with that template.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Going with XO and XCP-ng is the polar opposite of your complaint about the "Windows men" though. While Hyper-V isn't Windows, it can look and feel exactly like Windows.
Yeah but Hyper-V needs soooooo many hoops to jump through just to get the manager to work on a client machine.
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@hobbit666 this is true, but it's the Windows standard.
A windows 10 system with the hyper-v manager role and you connect and manage the hyper-v fleet.
I agree that XO and XCP-ng can make it easy, but anyone using a tool they aren't familiar with at all can and will cause issues.
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@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
A windows 10 system with the hyper-v manager role and you connect and manage the hyper-v fleet.
This is the problem, i've never been able to just install Hyper-V on a server then enable the Manager on a machine and it "Just" work. There has always been an issue with connection, with security, firewalls etc etc.
So a simple install this, install that then you login via a web interface
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@hobbit666 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dustinb3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
If the goal is a free backup solution and to use Hyper-V, why not veeam free using VeeamZip.
Is agentless a set-in-stone requirement?
Agentless is preferred as i need something i can just "hand over" if i leave or someone needs to restore as i don't want people having to install extra software into VM's. As most people here are "Windows" men, i wouldn't trust them in a Linux environment
As mentioned the host runs just Linux based machines so don't want to go out and buy a Win license just for the backup software.
You don't have to install Veeam on a VM on the host. Do you not have some random service desktop running Windows that can also run Veeam?
