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    • ObsolesceO
      Obsolesce
      last edited by Obsolesce

      In that case, you're "moving" the data (to USB stick), because you have the intention of it being the only copy, therefore not a backup.

      I would make two copies of your original data on different media, so that you aren't left with a single copy when you format your drive. That way you will have a backup.

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      • jmooreJ
        jmoore
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        At the IT road map conference in fort worth

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        • jmooreJ
          jmoore
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          At the ring central breakout session currently

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller @jmoore
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            @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            At the ring central breakout session currently

            We were just discussing ways to beat their pricing for tiny clients last night 🙂

            They have basically nothing to offer a shop over ~12 users already.

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            • jmooreJ
              jmoore @scottalanmiller
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              @scottalanmiller what did you come up with?

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              • NerdyDadN
                NerdyDad
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                Now talking with @BluGhost23 about him getting his radio license. Kind of feel like a radio ambassador.

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                • scottalanmillerS
                  scottalanmiller @NerdyDad
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                  @nerdydad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                  Now talking with @BluGhost23 about him getting his radio license. Kind of feel like a radio ambassador.

                  What a ham you are

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                    @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller what did you come up with?

                    Some early ideas. Seems pretty plausible to do.

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                    • jmooreJ
                      jmoore @scottalanmiller
                      last edited by

                      @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                      At the ring central breakout session currently

                      We were just discussing ways to beat their pricing for tiny clients last night 🙂

                      They have basically nothing to offer a shop over ~12 users already.

                      How are they so large if they don't have anything to offer organizations with more than 12 users?

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                      • jmooreJ
                        jmoore @scottalanmiller
                        last edited by

                        @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                        @scottalanmiller what did you come up with?

                        Some early ideas. Seems pretty plausible to do.
                        How did you arrive at the 12 user quantity?

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          At the ring central breakout session currently

                          We were just discussing ways to beat their pricing for tiny clients last night 🙂

                          They have basically nothing to offer a shop over ~12 users already.

                          I think k they are a solid company so sorry this claim seems kind of dubious to me since your a salesman to

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                          • momurdaM
                            momurda
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                            Testing uploading VM exports to BackBlaze B2
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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                              @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              At the ring central breakout session currently

                              We were just discussing ways to beat their pricing for tiny clients last night 🙂

                              They have basically nothing to offer a shop over ~12 users already.

                              I think k they are a solid company so sorry this claim seems kind of dubious to me since your a salesman to

                              I never said that they weren't a solid company, I recommend them all of the time. But their cost is insane once you get any number of users. Just run the numbers, it's crazy.

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                              • scottalanmillerS
                                scottalanmiller
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                                RingCentral is my "go to" for tiny shops of a couple of people. But at around 12 users, they start to be too expensive with too few business features. And as you add users, their cost goes through the roof, while with other models cost stays nearly flat. By the time you are into the high teens of users, the cost differential is just crazy.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller
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                                  I think we just did a comparison against them for a 14 person company and they were double the MSRP of their competition, with fewer business features. We beat them on a project two days ago, our price was $1200 and theirs was around $9000.

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                                  • EddieJenningsE
                                    EddieJennings
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                                    Educating myself to make sure my understanding of archive vs backup is clear.

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                                    • popesterP
                                      popester @EddieJennings
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                                      @eddiejennings if you have a link post it. I want to make sure I understand too.

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                                      • scottalanmillerS
                                        scottalanmiller @popester
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                                        @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                        @eddiejennings if you have a link post it. I want to make sure I understand too.

                                        I'll make a video. there have been several discussions, can't remember if there is a good article to link to or not.

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller
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                                          Simple answer, though, is that for something to be a backup, it has to be a copy of an original. If the original vanishes, it's no longer a copy, but what used to be the backup becomes the original (or source.) To be a backup, the original must still exist.

                                          If the original ceases to exist, but you moved your primary from production to low tier storage, we refer to that as an archive. Archives are the source data, but aren't kept at production readiness. This could mean a low tier of disks, or even tape in a vault.

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                                          • NerdyDadN
                                            NerdyDad @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                            @eddiejennings if you have a link post it. I want to make sure I understand too.

                                            I'll make a video. there have been several discussions, can't remember if there is a good article to link to or not.

                                            Would you clarify the differences between a copy, a backup, and an archive and the situation to use each in that video? Thanks

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