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    • quixoticgerberQ
      quixoticgerber @JaredBusch
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      @jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.

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      • JaredBuschJ
        JaredBusch @quixoticgerber
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        @quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

        @jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.

        If you want to talk about splitting hairs I suggest you look at your boss

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        • dafyreD
          dafyre @quixoticgerber
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          @quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

          @jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.

          Don't feel bad... @JaredBusch only acts like a big grump when he cares.

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          • QuixoticJeremyQ
            QuixoticJeremy @dafyre
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            @dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

            @jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.

            Don't feel bad... @JaredBusch only acts like a big grump when he cares.

            I actually see him as grumpy cat sometimes. ๐Ÿ™‚ Just kidding Jared!

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller @quixoticgerber
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              @quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

              @jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.

              Semantics are everything in IT. That little copy vs backup terminology is enough that I've seen six figure banking executives sweating because the SEC was going to shut down their banking operations because they were making copies, not backups. It's really important in how you think about the data and how you present it to others.

              It might sound like a simple wording difference, but it implies that in your head you are thinking of it as protecting your data, rather than just shuffling it around. And he was mentioning it to make sure you were thinking of the data as remaining at risk.

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              • quixoticgerberQ
                quixoticgerber @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller Fair enough. I can get that difference now. Especially in the current job where people lose their blessed minds over wording in email. Admittedly in my head, I wasn't thinking of it as protected, but as shuffled around so as not to lose it. So my mindset was fine, but the terminology was flawed.

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                • EddieJenningsE
                  EddieJennings
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                  Having some wisdom beaten into me, and being astonished at the level of dumb that my brain can produce.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @quixoticgerber
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                    @quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                    @scottalanmiller Fair enough. I can get that difference now. Especially in the current job where people lose their blessed minds over wording in email. Admittedly in my head, I wasn't thinking of it as protected, but as shuffled around so as not to lose it. So my mindset was fine, but the terminology was flawed.

                    Just good habits, Jared mentions it here because I've written papers on how backups become masters when the originals get deleted. It's a specific thing taught in IT because it's so easy to forget that something that was once a backup, stops being a backup and turns into an archive instead, when the original is removed. It's something that catches people regularly, so we try to catch it when it is said. Seen a lot of data lost because of that first hand, in huge Wall St. firms. Just because someone said backup, when it was an archive, and then the originals were deleted and the archives were eventually retired.

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                    • JaredBuschJ
                      JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller Well I sure as hell didnโ€™t say it because you were the paper

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                      • scottalanmillerS
                        scottalanmiller @quixoticgerber
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                        @quixoticgerber that said, I'd consider using a backup tool at this stage, rather than going to USB. Assuming you have any kind of Internet connection at all, get that data somewhere that you can get it back from. Like BackBlaze, CrashPlan or whatever else people have mentioned. B2, Glacier, etc. So that you actually have it protected, if it is worth protecting.

                        Then when you have your Linux box up and running, you can sync it back or whatever and keep using it there, too. But also keep it protected down the road.

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                        • JaredBuschJ
                          JaredBusch @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                          @quixoticgerber that said, I'd consider using a backup tool at this stage, rather than going to USB. Assuming you have any kind of Internet connection at all, get that data somewhere that you can get it back from. Like BackBlaze, CrashPlan or whatever else people have mentioned. B2, Glacier, etc. So that you actually have it protected, if it is worth protecting.

                          Then when you have your Linux box up and running, you can sync it back or whatever and keep using it there, too. But also keep it protected down the road.

                          Changing platforms ruins the initial back up anyway from those kind of tools most of the time. Unless youโ€™re only backing up a specific directory structure but even then your directory structure changes when you move from windows to Linux

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                          • quixoticgerberQ
                            quixoticgerber @JaredBusch
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                            @jaredbusch good to know, thank you!

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                            • scottalanmillerS
                              scottalanmiller @quixoticgerber
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                              @quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                              @jaredbusch good to know, thank you!

                              That's why I mentioned something like DropBox. Can work really well for that. You just pop everything you want to keep into that and let it sync. Then let it sync back.

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                              • quixoticgerberQ
                                quixoticgerber @scottalanmiller
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                                @scottalanmiller OK, yeah. I'm sorry if I misled anyone. Just p***ing and moaning needlessly over saving my photos and music when it's literally a set-and-forget process when I pick the right tools. I should be backing these up all along anyway.

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                                • scottalanmillerS
                                  scottalanmiller @quixoticgerber
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                                  @quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                  @scottalanmiller OK, yeah. I'm sorry if I misled anyone. Just p***ing and moaning needlessly over saving my photos and music when it's literally a set-and-forget process when I pick the right tools. I should be backing these up all along anyway.

                                  For photos, if you have Amazon Prime, they have a free service for that. Flickr is great and has some free tier for that as well.

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                                  • ObsolesceO
                                    Obsolesce
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                                    In that case, you're "moving" the data (to USB stick), because you have the intention of it being the only copy, therefore not a backup.

                                    I would make two copies of your original data on different media, so that you aren't left with a single copy when you format your drive. That way you will have a backup.

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                                    • jmooreJ
                                      jmoore
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                                      At the IT road map conference in fort worth

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                                      • jmooreJ
                                        jmoore
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                                        At the ring central breakout session currently

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                                        • scottalanmillerS
                                          scottalanmiller @jmoore
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                                          @jmoore said in What Are You Doing Right Now:

                                          At the ring central breakout session currently

                                          We were just discussing ways to beat their pricing for tiny clients last night ๐Ÿ™‚

                                          They have basically nothing to offer a shop over ~12 users already.

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                                            jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                                            @scottalanmiller what did you come up with?

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