What Are You Doing Right Now
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I try to choose my words carefully, as I love clarity in speech. I think Sage 50 Accounting Quantum is one of the worst applications to support. The Pervasive SQL database is one of the most fragile things ever developed.
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@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just scored two tix to Justice League for tonight's preview.
Someone gave me a full bag of hot garbage today which was also free
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@jaredbusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
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@quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
So I need to back everything up, so looks like investment in a few 64GB flash drives is in my future to back all that up. and then I will have a Linux laptop. Never used Linux before.
That is not a backup, it is a copy. It is also totally not how backups work.
It's correct to say it's no longer a backup once there is only one copy - the copy on the USB stick. For one to have a true backup, you'd have to have at least two copies (a copy on two different USB sticks).
No. Making a copy of the data is part of a back up but it is not a back up. Ever.
By definition, a backup is an additional copy of data. So long as there is more than one copy of data, it's a backup. Once your "backup" becomes your only set, it's no longer a backup and is now your original data.
I'd like to take it further and suggest a backup is not only a copy of your data, but a usable or restorable copy of your data.
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just scored two tix to Justice League for tonight's preview.
Someone gave me a full bag of hot garbage today which was also free
I feel myself being channeled.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@dashrender said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just scored two tix to Justice League for tonight's preview.
Someone gave me a full bag of hot garbage today which was also free
I feel myself being channeled.
Don't go over to SW. Its not worth losing the brain cells.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
For a variety of dumb reasons, we were forced to use CenturyLink for a bit for an office in Nevada. That is the only ISP I've dealt with that was never able to produce me a contract for our services.
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@eddiejennings I was afraid of something like this. CenturyLink just bought Level3. They are now our primary. I loved level3. Their customer service was always top notch. I am just waiting for the degradation to start.
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@popester said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@eddiejennings I was afraid of something like this. CenturyLink just bought Level3. They are now our primary. I loved level3. Their customer service was always top notch. I am just waiting for the degradation to start.
A lot of people got screwed in that deal.
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Finished the upgrade to FC27. Wayland just bombs out though. So I'm on X for now. And have the new Firefox as default.
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@jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.
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@quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.
If you want to talk about splitting hairs I suggest you look at your boss
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@quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.
Don't feel bad... @JaredBusch only acts like a big grump when he cares.
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@dafyre said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.
Don't feel bad... @JaredBusch only acts like a big grump when he cares.
I actually see him as grumpy cat sometimes.
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@quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@jaredbusch I do believe we're splitting hairs now, so forgive me for my "inadequate" terminology use. I will proceed to COPY my files to my USB sticks so as not to lose them when I basically annihilate my computer.
Semantics are everything in IT. That little copy vs backup terminology is enough that I've seen six figure banking executives sweating because the SEC was going to shut down their banking operations because they were making copies, not backups. It's really important in how you think about the data and how you present it to others.
It might sound like a simple wording difference, but it implies that in your head you are thinking of it as protecting your data, rather than just shuffling it around. And he was mentioning it to make sure you were thinking of the data as remaining at risk.
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@scottalanmiller Fair enough. I can get that difference now. Especially in the current job where people lose their blessed minds over wording in email. Admittedly in my head, I wasn't thinking of it as protected, but as shuffled around so as not to lose it. So my mindset was fine, but the terminology was flawed.
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Having some wisdom beaten into me, and being astonished at the level of dumb that my brain can produce.
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@quixoticgerber said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller Fair enough. I can get that difference now. Especially in the current job where people lose their blessed minds over wording in email. Admittedly in my head, I wasn't thinking of it as protected, but as shuffled around so as not to lose it. So my mindset was fine, but the terminology was flawed.
Just good habits, Jared mentions it here because I've written papers on how backups become masters when the originals get deleted. It's a specific thing taught in IT because it's so easy to forget that something that was once a backup, stops being a backup and turns into an archive instead, when the original is removed. It's something that catches people regularly, so we try to catch it when it is said. Seen a lot of data lost because of that first hand, in huge Wall St. firms. Just because someone said backup, when it was an archive, and then the originals were deleted and the archives were eventually retired.
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@scottalanmiller Well I sure as hell didn’t say it because you were the paper
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@quixoticgerber that said, I'd consider using a backup tool at this stage, rather than going to USB. Assuming you have any kind of Internet connection at all, get that data somewhere that you can get it back from. Like BackBlaze, CrashPlan or whatever else people have mentioned. B2, Glacier, etc. So that you actually have it protected, if it is worth protecting.
Then when you have your Linux box up and running, you can sync it back or whatever and keep using it there, too. But also keep it protected down the road.
