What Are You Doing Right Now
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@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
Sure, but are A+ cert newbies going to be supporting those? Not likely.
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@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
You shouldn't have to test on things that are no longer supported imo, even if it's likely that companies aren't investing how they should. Screw em
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
You shouldn't have to test on things that are no longer supported imo, even if it's likely that companies aren't investing how they should. Screw em
With that logic, we should only test current. Which might be a bit extreme. Knowing a range of things isn't bad. And what is or isn't supported is kind of a random bar to set. But "what is useful to a normal candidate" is pretty important, I think.
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I am in the middle of recovering a Synology after a simple update reboot.
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Because let's face it, in their career, 99% of people taking the A+ today will see, use and support Windows 10 in some capacity. 50% will do the same with Windows 7, 8 & 8.1 combined. 5% will do it for Vista and XP. Testing on Windows 10 is acceptable because it's that general as to be sensible. Testing on XP means your A+ exam is designed to steer the industry and candidates, not prep them for what is needed.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
You shouldn't have to test on things that are no longer supported imo, even if it's likely that companies aren't investing how they should. Screw em
With that logic, we should only test current. Which might be a bit extreme. Knowing a range of things isn't bad. And what is or isn't supported is kind of a random bar to set. But "what is useful to a normal candidate" is pretty important, I think.
Having a range of knowledge is good but you should need to invest in the future, not the past.
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@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
I am in the middle of recovering a Synology after a simple update reboot.
Ouch, what happened?
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@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@wirestyle22 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
You shouldn't have to test on things that are no longer supported imo, even if it's likely that companies aren't investing how they should. Screw em
With that logic, we should only test current. Which might be a bit extreme. Knowing a range of things isn't bad. And what is or isn't supported is kind of a random bar to set. But "what is useful to a normal candidate" is pretty important, I think.
Having a range of knowledge is good but you should need to invest in the future, not the past.
But the future can easily involve things a little from the past. There is a balance. Certainly, learning to the future has little risk, leaning to the past has a lot.
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@scottalanmiller normal firmware update. BAcked up the settings prior to update. Updated firmware and device reboot, now the Synology states is migratable even with a reset and everything. Just getting another drive to do a migration as las resource.
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@dbeato said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller normal firmware update. BAcked up the settings prior to update. Updated firmware and device reboot, now the Synology states is migratable even with a reset and everything. Just getting another drive to do a migration as las resource.
Ouch, good luck.
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Speaking of A+...
I just came across a product computer with a Windows Time issue. I seen that it was set to use the CMOS clock. So I checked that... and lookey what I found.
A+ would want me to waste hours of time on it... but I'm just going to have them put in an NCR, get them a new PC, and send this one back to Dell. Done. ( I did check to see if BIOS is up to date, it was.)
Pay attention to the time:
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Cursing snap connection reset errors.
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Just upgraded my work pc to Office 2016 from 2010. Outlook wont open, downloading my 3rd batch of office-updates-that-require-restarts from Windows Update. Started the upgrade process over an hour ago, still cant use Outlook.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@RojoLoco said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Tim_G said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@NerdyDad said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
It covered modern Windows OSs from XP to now...
The best modern bench tech easily will never see XP in his entire career today.
Well, ideally... you would hope so anyways.
"Ideally" is the key word here. In Scott's perfect vision of "modern" bench techery, one would not likely see XP, but put that tech in anytown, USA, and they will be up to their ears in XP, Vista, and other horrifyingly ancient technologies. Fact.
I'm not suggesting anything like ideally.
No @scottalanmiller, you are not correct. A friend of mine runs a shop in "Anytown, USA" as @RojoLoco put it. He sees Windows XP, Vista, and 7, everyday.
That is a fact of bench level work. Less than half of what comes in his door is Windows 10 yet.
As for the rest of your post,
I'm saying that in the real world, you will often get work after your cert process and work an entire career without ever seeing that old stuff. Sure, lots of other people will see old things, I'm not suggesting otherwise. And I'm not injecting any feeling of what ideal is or isn't. Only stating the very real fact that a large percentage of people getting any cert will never see 14 year old technology, ever, in their career. If their very first job doesn't expose them to it, they will easily be at 17-20 years past that tech before going to their second job. It is REALLY trivial to never see old OSes, for example, even for people working in bench.
These people that take the A+ but go into IT, will never see this, you are correct. But do not claim to know a damned thing about "Anytown, USA" because you are completely out of touch with that reality.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
Sure, but are A+ cert newbies going to be supporting those? Not likely.
A+ newbies are the cheapest hires, usually, and a company that's still employing an XP based system is most likely to hire the least experienced, cheapest people possible.
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@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
Sure, but are A+ cert newbies going to be supporting those? Not likely.
A+ newbies are the cheapest hires, usually, and a company that's still employing an XP based system is most likely to hire the least experienced, cheapest people possible.
Perhaps. But not for that role. Nothing in the A+ will prepare you for a CNC machine for example.
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As much as I enjoy teaching percussion kid, his arm injury allows me to go home early
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I'm setting up a Juniper SRX340 pair for HA. These things are way easier than Cisco, but they have terribad documentation on the public net.
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Just got into bed.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Grey said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Some systems, specifically stuff with embedded controls, will continue to run XP or older for some time. A great example is a CNC station, or an MRI station. In 2011, I was working with a client that had CNC stations still running '98.
Sure, but are A+ cert newbies going to be supporting those? Not likely.
A+ newbies are the cheapest hires, usually, and a company that's still employing an XP based system is most likely to hire the least experienced, cheapest people possible.
Perhaps. But not for that role. Nothing in the A+ will prepare you for a CNC machine for example.
That's absolutely true. Similarly, none of the CompTIA courses cover HIPAA requirements.
