What Are You Doing Right Now
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@BRRABill Sorry watching TV at the same time (and it's already 10:20PM here)
I thought you search for a list of our reseller with a map with everyone of them
We are based in France, in Grenoble.
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill Sorry watching TV at the same time (and it's already 10:20PM here)
I thought you search for a list of our reseller with a map with everyone of them
We are based in France, in Grenoble.
Yes I was looking at your street.
I feel like I've been on vacation, or as @scottalanmiller would probably say, holiday.
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@BRRABill Sorry watching TV at the same time (and it's already 10:20PM here)
I thought you search for a list of our reseller with a map with everyone of them
We are based in France, in Grenoble.
Oh, neighbors
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@JaredBusch said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@Texkonc said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
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@travisdh1 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Just thinking on how the documentation here at Mangolassi.it is better than XenServer's official documentation, and heading to lunch.
There is Xen here at my new job. It looks simple. I havent spent much time in it and already feel comfortable.
What are they using to manage it?
XenCenter
Yeah I don't understand why you haven't built an XO vm yet, it's free to do so. And it really gets you to understand how solid of a product it is.
Because he literally just started.
Well what's the hold up now?! Get er done!
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@thwr On the US scale, yes
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr On the US scale, yes
We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name
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@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr On the US scale, yes
We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name
It is? What's DESY?
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@olivier I agree here with @scottalanmiller, sticking to the freemium approach is a horrid idea.
Moving to, you mean. THey are not doing freemium right now, just not making it obvious enough that they are not. I don't think @olivier realizes how many companies walk away the moment that they see freemium "looking" products like @Texkonc's company did this morning. The free product should be a loss leader to do the marketing for them, that's how RH makes it work. Their free stuff makes them a household name, then larger companies pay for support. That's how the model works. Freemium just makes people look elsewhere before even getting started. That's why everyone in this community ignored XO until we found out it was fully open sourced.
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@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr On the US scale, yes
We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name
Not around here. Who are they?
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@thwr Not for non-science people ^^
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@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr On the US scale, yes
We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name
It is? What's DESY?
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr Not for non-science people ^^
...With a broken Google.
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@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@DustinB3403 said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@thwr On the US scale, yes
We have a "big" XOA user in your town (DESY)No need to put big in quotes. DESY is a well known name
It is? What's DESY?
In short, a "smaller" LHC, but with a LOT of machines doing heavy CPUs task, running a LOT of XS hosts.
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
That's my opinion/experience after 2y on the Open Source business (as a primary thing for my company I mean). Feel free to not share this point of view, but it cames from the field
How many of each company have you run?
My experience comes from the field as well. From a customer side, this is what I see businesses using to choose software. Freemium is almost an instant "ignore" when it comes to products. It means that it isn't worth deploying to test. Pure open means that I can safely deploy and then decide if I want to keep it, pay for support, etc.
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Come on, as a customer/software consumer, you always want cheaper software, and that makes sense
(I don't have any problem with that).Open Source is at best a side product of the price choice, but not the thing that would make your decision.
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Come on, as a customer/software consumer, you always want cheaper software, and that makes sense
(I don't have any problem with that).Open Source is at best a side product of the price choice, but not the thing that would make your decision.
Actually, as a software consumer it would make the decision. It means I weigh the risks of having great software, but no support, and great software with support.
Of course I may chose to be cheap, but that doesn't mean a business would chose to be cheap.
@olivier have you ever heard of KickStarter?
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Come on, as a customer/software consumer, you always want cheaper software, and that makes sense
(I don't have any problem with that).Nope, not true at all. I often don't want cheaper. But things that I DO want...
- Open Souce (it's a safety thing)
- Non-freemium entry point so that I can test with comfort or use in less than critical modes
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I don't think you are representing most of how companies deal with IT ^^ Otherwise, VMWare shares won't be that high.
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@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Open Source is at best a side product of the price choice, but not the thing that would make your decision.
It's not the only factor but it is ALWAYS a factor. That code is open sourced is a very important factor always for anything critical for a business because it means we have more options and protection than with closed source. I would never rule out software because it is closed source. But it is always a mark against a product.
And most important to you as a vendor, open source software always gets tested and deployed first because it is the low hanging fruit. If open source meets the needs, it will easily be chosen before the closed source alternative even gets looked at.
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@scottalanmiller said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
@olivier said in What Are You Doing Right Now:
Open Source is at best a side product of the price choice, but not the thing that would make your decision.
It's not the only factor but it is ALWAYS a factor. That code is open sourced is a very important factor always for anything critical for a business because it means we have more options and protection than with closed source. I would never rule out software because it is closed source. But it is always a mark against a product.
And most important to you as a vendor, open source software always gets tested and deployed first because it is the low hanging fruit. If open source meets the needs, it will easily be chosen before the closed source alternative even gets looked at.
Stop saying exactly in what I believe
That's good, but that's not reflecting the real market.
edit: again, my experience, I don't say I got the truth, but didn't see any proof of the opposite so far...
