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@jimmynelson welcome to IT and MangoLassi!
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@nadnerB said in new begineer lT:
Welcome to Mangolassi
@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
can someone explain.which one good career future forward and good pay ahead in better future.
Well, that depends on where you are in the world. Linux is more common in some countries, while Windows more is common in others.
If you have no idea, a starting point could be to have a look a job websites in your area and see what's in demand.In what country is Windows more common? I thought that the US was the most-Windows centric country, and it's dramatically Linux leading.
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@scottalanmiller said in new begineer lT:
@nadnerB said in new begineer lT:
Welcome to Mangolassi
@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
can someone explain.which one good career future forward and good pay ahead in better future.
Well, that depends on where you are in the world. Linux is more common in some countries, while Windows more is common in others.
If you have no idea, a starting point could be to have a look a job websites in your area and see what's in demand.In what country is Windows more common? I thought that the US was the most-Windows centric country, and it's dramatically Linux leading.
AFAIK, It's more common here in Australia. I don't have any stats to back myself up that's why I haven't gone all sweeping generalisation on everyone... I left room for error
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@DustinB3403 said in new begineer lT:
@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@DustinB3403 said in new begineer lT:
@jimmynelson I personally wouldn't go to college to learn linux administration...
l' m new begineer
Just because you are new, doesn't mean you have to go to college to learn Linux Administration.
In fact, the discussions around the usefulness of college pretty much always assume that you are new, people who are not new in IT don't normally discuss college.
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@DustinB3403 said in new begineer lT:
@nadnerB said in new begineer lT:
Slow down, mate. Don't get too far ahead of yourself.
Have a go at the VirtualBox setup and try out some stuff on Linux BEFORE you make a massive financial commitment.This is what I was trying to get at. Investing in training is a good thing, if you are certain that is what you want to do.
But start by getting a basic understanding of what it is you might be doing, before you go and invest in training.
This is very important. You should know a lot of basics before considering training. Otherwise you will likely not get much or any value from the training. And in nearly all cases, you can teach yourself far better, far faster without the training.
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@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@DustinB3403 i need trainer or whats about getting or apply for Redhat certification??
No, you don't need a trainer for Linux. That's true with VMware, but not for any Linux cert (or any cert I would accept on a resume - boot camps and required classes equal valueless cert to me as a hiring manager, that's just a cert saying you showed up, not that you learned anything.)
For Linux certs you get a book, you install Linux and you learn. If you have any struggles doing that, you should reconsider your career plans because that's how you will need to learn for your entire career. That will never go away just because you got your foot in the door. People who need classes to get started in IT normally fail shortly thereafter when they find that there are no classes for their continuing growth and without that growth they go nowhere.
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@nadnerB said in new begineer lT:
Slow down, mate. Don't get too far ahead of yourself.
Have a go at the VirtualBox setup and try out some stuff on Linux BEFORE you make a massive financial commitment.Yup. One step at a time. Learn VirtualBox. Get CentOS. Start learning CentOS. If you don't know these technologies already, you aren't anywhere close to knowing what career paths you want to pursue yet. Explore some things, you need to find something that you are really interested in.
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@scottalanmiller yeah Great good scott.
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Hi Jimmy.
Have you taken a look at 'system administrator' job postings for your location, or locations where you can see yourself living? If your market is on the smaller side, jobs might pivot toward Windows administration or Linux administration. My city, for example, is extremely Windows. Our main industries are medical/engineering/manufacturing - meaning lots of desktops running Windows and lots of Windows infrastructure managing it.If I drive 4 hours away, there's another town (Silicon Valley of Montana), with new startups dealing mainly in web/analytics/big data/SaaS. 3 of every 4 job postings there are for Linux sysadmins.
Know your market. If you're in a big city, I don't think you can do any harm with either. Follow your heart. But smaller places tend to be dominated by two or three industries that may not give you that freedom.
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@TAHIN thanks i live in london. only windows and linux admin operated in uk
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@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@TAHIN thanks i live in london. only windows and linux admin operated in uk
That's not true at all. London is the number two IT city in the world, every OS is there. I know personally many (hundreds or thousands) of Solaris, AIX, BSD and similar admins alone, and we all know that iSeries, Z, OpenVMS and every other OS is there, too. Job listings are useless, good jobs don't go on listings. Listings are mostly fake and will heavily mislead you.
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@scottalanmiller yes of you re right but must jobs in windows microsoft paying high and linux admin as well
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@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@scottalanmiller yes of you re right but must jobs in windows microsoft paying high and linux admin as well
I think you'll find the rarer the skill set the higher the pay. Windows admins, and Linux to an extent, are fairly common, whereas UNIX, OpenVMS, iSeries, etc are rare.
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@jimmynelson my plans is to look at Linux admin or.windows microsoft to lear . one is my option. so i need to give a try in the two options and consider one that l am interest
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@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@scottalanmiller yes of you re right but must jobs in windows microsoft paying high and linux admin as well
Windows is the lowest paying. This is what I mean... looking at job listings is 100% useless and misleading. It will make you think all kinds of bad things and lead you to make really bad career decisions based on misunderstandings.
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@coliver said in new begineer lT:
@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@scottalanmiller yes of you re right but must jobs in windows microsoft paying high and linux admin as well
I think you'll find the rarer the skill set the higher the pay. Windows admins, and Linux to an extent, are fairly common, whereas UNIX, OpenVMS, iSeries, etc are rare.
Although Linux continues to pay more than those. Linux people with Solaris level skills earn more than their Solaris counterparts. Linux manages to remain on top, even with how common it is, because so many people avoid getting the skills regardless of how big the market demand is.
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@scottalanmiller yes you re definitely right if i check jobsite or jobs listing window server the paying low
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@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@scottalanmiller yes you re definitely right if i check jobsite or jobs listing window server the paying low
But remember, those sites are very misleading. Linux often pays double as much as job listings claim. If you use job listings for information, you will limit your knowledge a lot.
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@scottalanmiller talking about jobsite in london.yes linux admin(junior) as a begineer paying £ 30k per annum. window server lst line, 2nd line paid 18k-25k £ per annum. in linux admin after 1years experience u paying more close.to 35k per annum
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@jimmynelson said in new begineer lT:
@scottalanmiller talking about jobsite in london.yes linux admin(junior) as a begineer paying £ 30k per annum. window server lst line, 2nd line paid 18k-25k £ per annum. in linux admin after 1years experience u paying more close.to 35k per annum
I know London banks will pay around $120K for first year Linux Admins based in NYC. That's what London pays to offshore that work to lower cost locations. They have to pay more than that in London or else it makes no sense to offshore it to the lower cost US.
