Staying at your shitty employer is your fault
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@travisdh1 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
How does my value to the company change because of where I happen to live?
https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation/#paying-local-rates
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@stacksofplates said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@travisdh1 said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
How does my value to the company change because of where I happen to live?
https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/total-rewards/compensation/#paying-local-rates
Hire the best candidate
We hire the best candidate for each role regardless of location, cost, or other factors. During the sourcing we do optimize what potential candidates we approach in order to bring more diversity (both geographically and people from underrepresented backgrounds) to our team
I wonder if this is really true? They really toss location, and cost out the window? Location - perhaps they do, but they already said about that they want a geographically diverse workforce, so this seems unlikely.
And cost is always a factor in highering, I don't understand how it couldn't be. -
@dashrender it's all about the pipeline. It's recruitment that sources people, and they are not candidates until they are in the pipeline. They can advertise for jobs in certain areas but still say they hire the best candidate because they were only trying to source people in certain areas. Not that I know GitLab does that, but that's the strategy for increasing diversity without discrimination. Once they're in the pipeline, probably the people making the hiring call aren't involved in cost decisions. Though they're likely be able to figure out the salary based on location + role + level.
If you want information specifically about GitLab's process, let me know and I can find out.
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GitLab used to have a calculator public to see how much you would get paid, but they had to take it down due to external pressures.
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@flaxking said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
GitLab used to have a calculator public to see how much you would get paid, but they had to take it down due to external pressures.
One of the issues with posting something like that, is that everyone in that specific role is basically making the same - there's on incentive to do better in that job. At least that's the excuse I hear...
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@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@flaxking said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
GitLab used to have a calculator public to see how much you would get paid, but they had to take it down due to external pressures.
One of the issues with posting something like that, is that everyone in that specific role is basically making the same - there's on incentive to do better in that job. At least that's the excuse I hear...
But there are incentives to move to locations that don't cost you so much, but cost the employer more. Lots of "gaming" of that system to be done.
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@scottalanmiller said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@flaxking said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
GitLab used to have a calculator public to see how much you would get paid, but they had to take it down due to external pressures.
One of the issues with posting something like that, is that everyone in that specific role is basically making the same - there's on incentive to do better in that job. At least that's the excuse I hear...
But there are incentives to move to locations that don't cost you so much, but cost the employer more. Lots of "gaming" of that system to be done.
This assumes either - you have to move before getting the job or that the company will change your pay after you move there.
As mentioned by @flaxking, where ever you want to live might not be a geographic area the company wants people.
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@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@scottalanmiller said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@dashrender said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
@flaxking said in Staying at your shitty employer is your fault:
GitLab used to have a calculator public to see how much you would get paid, but they had to take it down due to external pressures.
One of the issues with posting something like that, is that everyone in that specific role is basically making the same - there's on incentive to do better in that job. At least that's the excuse I hear...
But there are incentives to move to locations that don't cost you so much, but cost the employer more. Lots of "gaming" of that system to be done.
This assumes either - you have to move before getting the job or that the company will change your pay after you move there.
As mentioned by @flaxking, where ever you want to live might not be a geographic area the company wants people.
Still gamable no matter which method they go with. None of it supports business processes.
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@dashrender they reason they had to take it down was because they were basically freely giving out information that they and other companies have to pay for.
