What do you use for petabyte storage?
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For NVR storage? Tape, for sure. Definitely not NAS or anything online or near line. You want offline for sure.
Other than physically being able to work, something like an Isilon would be about the last thing that I'd want to use. Not because it's bad, but because it's meant for high criticality, high performance, always online workloads at crazy high cost. The opposite of an NVR need.
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Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
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What is the desire for 3 years of online viewing?
Cold storage of some kind would be best for most people.
Also When moved to cold storage, things could be compressed to H265 or some other highly efficient codec that the NVR is not likely using.
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Government directive. Put a non IT person in charge of an IT department and this is what happens.
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@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
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@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
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@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
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@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.
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@JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.
What he linked was just a single drive, at least what I saw at Newegg.
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@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.
What he linked was just a single drive, at least what I saw at Newegg.
He quoted you. You linked a library.
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@JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.
I started with a cheap single drive. There was no requirement stated to have it online and rarely is there. A human to load the odd tape now and again is typically not an issue.
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@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@JaredBusch said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@travisdh1 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@Harry-Lui said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Do you have any recommendation for tape storage device?
Thanks.
Something like this, probably. My guess is LTO7 will be the right fit for you. But LTO6 might be, too.
If they insist on everything being online without the need to swap tapes (they're already being silly, could see them wanting such) https://www.backupworks.com/NEOs-T48-LTO-8-Library-OV-NEOsT488SA.aspx
There ARE robots for that. That's what big companies typically do.
That is what he linked, a self contained loader. At least that is what it looks like.
I started with a cheap single drive. There was no requirement stated to have it online and rarely is there. A human to load the odd tape now and again is typically not an issue.
Frankly, asking for that much storage and showing it as live NAS storage - I merely assumed he needed it online and live, otherwise why even look at that?
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I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online" -
@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"Jared asked what, not why and missed a comma.
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@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.
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Who is going to be tasked with changing the tapes if using a single drive? Is that something they are going to keep up with in house??
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@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.
I didn't say it - but I assume live data because the OP specifically posted about a live data solution. Though I think you mentioning tape was likely the best option.
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@Dashrender said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@scottalanmiller said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
@hobbit666 said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
I'm pretty sure "online" was mentioned in the original question.
@JaredBusch ask "why the need for 3yr online"It was not. I wondered why Jared mentioned that.
I didn't say it - but I assume live data because the OP specifically posted about a live data solution. Though I think you mentioning tape was likely the best option.
I think, but I'm just guessing, that that was just a solution that he looked at. Most people don't even consider archival systems for something like this.
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@biggen said in What do you use for petabyte storage?:
Who is going to be tasked with changing the tapes if using a single drive? Is that something they are going to keep up with in house??
Would be weird to farm that out. It's normally like a once a week task if you don't want a robot. It only takes a second. Not a hard thing to do at all, changing a tape once a week. if the company can't organize that simple task, they aren't going to be around for three years to worry about it.
