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    • scottalanmillerS
      scottalanmiller @siringo
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      @siringo said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

      I know this is elementary for you linux guys, but is that telling me that it has used 3 of the disks to create a volume of size 557.87GB?

      LVs are logical volumes. This isn't a Linux thing, this is the same on every OS including Windows. LVs are what we've used since the late 1990s instead of partitions. They are a more powerful mechanism with abstraction and no direct tie to the hardware.

      Windows confusingly uses LVs but doesn't label them that, instead they call them "dynamic disks". But LV is the generic term that applies in all cases.

      So your PVE system is saying that on the physical partition /dev/sda3 you have a logical volume manager (e.g. using dynamic disks) and it is split into three volumes. The total size of the physical device is 557GB and all of it has been used by the volume manager at this point. That's all it is saying.

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      • scottalanmillerS
        scottalanmiller @siringo
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        @siringo said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

        If not and it's only using 1 physical disk, how can I add more disks for Proxmox to use?

        The way you WANT to do it is to put them into RAID. Do you not have hardware RAID? If not, that's fine. Just think of it as "doing something complex enough that VMware and Hyper-V don't really accommodate it, technically Hyper-V does, just not in a way you should trust yet and has a train wreck of a track record.)

        But, in general, RAID isn't another thing you'd want to be learning here. Treat it like VMware or Hyper-V and stick to hardware RAID that takes care of all of this for you.

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        • siringoS
          siringo
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          Thanks for the info Scott, I appreciate it.
          It's the next day now, what I was wondering yesterday was had Proxmox created a RAID set out of the 4 disks in the server? The confusion came about as what Proxmox seemed to be telling me yesterday was it had used 3 disks, which to me looked like a RAID set with the capacity of a single physical disk.

          So I was wondering if it had created a mirror with a hot spare???

          If it hasn't done that, then I'd like to add the extra disks for Proxmox to use so I can learn about Proxmox as I play, this is just a lab server.

          This is what is shown under LVM-Thin

          12fd2fd6-4d49-4309-ae6c-2e3a42d55f8e-image.png

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          • travisdh1T
            travisdh1 @siringo
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            @siringo said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

            Thanks for the info Scott, I appreciate it.
            It's the next day now, what I was wondering yesterday was had Proxmox created a RAID set out of the 4 disks in the server? The confusion came about as what Proxmox seemed to be telling me yesterday was it had used 3 disks, which to me looked like a RAID set with the capacity of a single physical disk.

            So I was wondering if it had created a mirror with a hot spare???

            If it hasn't done that, then I'd like to add the extra disks for Proxmox to use so I can learn about Proxmox as I play, this is just a lab server.

            This is what is shown under LVM-Thin

            12fd2fd6-4d49-4309-ae6c-2e3a42d55f8e-image.png

            That looks like a single drive to me. Can't be sure without seeing the outputs from zpool status -l

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            • black3dynamiteB
              black3dynamite
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              @siringo During the installation setup you do have an option to use raid by using ZFS but it’s not selected by default. I’ve never used it because I’m using hardware raid.

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              • siringoS
                siringo @black3dynamite
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                @black3dynamite said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                @siringo During the installation setup you do have an option to use raid by using ZFS but it’s not selected by default. I’ve never used it because I’m using hardware raid.

                Yep I can remember looking at that option when installing, but it came up with a message along the lines of "that option is not supported etc" so I just went with the default.

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                • DustinB3403D
                  DustinB3403 @siringo
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                  @siringo said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                  @black3dynamite said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                  @siringo During the installation setup you do have an option to use raid by using ZFS but it’s not selected by default. I’ve never used it because I’m using hardware raid.

                  Yep I can remember looking at that option when installing, but it came up with a message along the lines of "that option is not supported etc" so I just went with the default.

                  The defaults we're very likely no raid at all and to use a single disk.

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                  • scottalanmillerS
                    scottalanmiller @travisdh1
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                    @travisdh1 said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                    That looks like a single drive to me. Can't be sure without seeing the outputs from zpool status -l

                    No zpools by default.

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                    • travisdh1T
                      travisdh1 @scottalanmiller
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                      @scottalanmiller said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                      @travisdh1 said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                      That looks like a single drive to me. Can't be sure without seeing the outputs from zpool status -l

                      No zpools by default.

                      That would confirm it for sure! 😛

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                      • siringoS
                        siringo
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                        @travisdh1 said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                        zpool status -l

                        Thanks for the help everyone, just become very busy.

                        I get this:

                        a219e156-04f1-4f8e-8250-975dd9386f01-image.png

                        What does that tell us?

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                        • travisdh1T
                          travisdh1 @siringo
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                          @siringo said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                          @travisdh1 said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                          zpool status -l

                          Thanks for the help everyone, just become very busy.

                          I get this:

                          a219e156-04f1-4f8e-8250-975dd9386f01-image.png

                          What does that tell us?

                          That you went with the default setting, so are only using a single drive.

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                          • siringoS
                            siringo @travisdh1
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                            @travisdh1 said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                            @siringo said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                            @travisdh1 said in Windows Servers Archived onto Linux, suggestions/help pls:

                            zpool status -l

                            Thanks for the help everyone, just become very busy.

                            I get this:

                            a219e156-04f1-4f8e-8250-975dd9386f01-image.png

                            What does that tell us?

                            That you went with the default setting, so are only using a single drive.

                            Oh, great. Thanks travisdh1, we got there in the end. Now I know I can add the extra disks.

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