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    Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video

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    • jmooreJ
      jmoore @scottalanmiller
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      @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

      @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

      I should really see if there is a more modern implementation of Fortran, I thought ti was cool when I was a teenager lol.

      Sure is, fully modern Fortran on Linux with the GCC compiler toolkit. Still used, insanely fast. Compiles through the same pipeline as some of the best C code.

      Ok yeah I'm looking into this today!

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        scottalanmiller @jmoore
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        @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

        @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

        @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

        I also dabbled in vb but hated it. To me, it just made no sense and everything was harder to accomplish anything. So, to me my opinion is a little different than yours on this, I still think plain vb was horrible and should be scrubbed from the face of the earth. I went back to the c family and never looked back.

        Everything that was bad about BASIC, but worse with no excuse for it, lol.

        Yeah that's pretty much my opinion too. I guess it made more sense to others but not me.

        There were lots of people addicted to "I know one thing" and were scared to learn something new and it made them feel better about it.

        Also made their resumes look better.

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        • scottalanmillerS
          scottalanmiller @jmoore
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          @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

          @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

          @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

          I should really see if there is a more modern implementation of Fortran, I thought ti was cool when I was a teenager lol.

          Sure is, fully modern Fortran on Linux with the GCC compiler toolkit. Still used, insanely fast. Compiles through the same pipeline as some of the best C code.

          Ok yeah I'm looking into this today!

          https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortran

          https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/11/fortran-hello-world-example-how-to-write-and-execute-fortran-program-on-linux-os/

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          • scottalanmillerS
            scottalanmiller
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            Compiles modern Fortran 2008 code!

            It's pretty much the world's "go to" Fortran compiler today.

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            • scottalanmillerS
              scottalanmiller
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              Actually, it's now supporting Fortran 2018!

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              • jmooreJ
                jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                I also dabbled in vb but hated it. To me, it just made no sense and everything was harder to accomplish anything. So, to me my opinion is a little different than yours on this, I still think plain vb was horrible and should be scrubbed from the face of the earth. I went back to the c family and never looked back.

                Everything that was bad about BASIC, but worse with no excuse for it, lol.

                Yeah that's pretty much my opinion too. I guess it made more sense to others but not me.

                There were lots of people addicted to "I know one thing" and were scared to learn something new and it made them feel better about it.

                Also made their resumes look better.

                Yeah see that never really bothered me. The coursework i did in school cures you of that really quick. Every mechanics, electrostatic, or solid state problem is words different and there is no comfortable zone lol. So learning new things has never been a problem for me.

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                • jmooreJ
                  jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                  @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                  @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                  @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                  @jmoore said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                  I should really see if there is a more modern implementation of Fortran, I thought ti was cool when I was a teenager lol.

                  Sure is, fully modern Fortran on Linux with the GCC compiler toolkit. Still used, insanely fast. Compiles through the same pipeline as some of the best C code.

                  Ok yeah I'm looking into this today!

                  https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortran

                  https://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/11/fortran-hello-world-example-how-to-write-and-execute-fortran-program-on-linux-os/

                  Awesome thanks!

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                    First BASIC on the PC was gwbasic. It was a typical BASIC dialect. Just like you'd see on micro computers of the 80's like VIC 20, ZX81 etc. BASIC as a language was actually made for educational use. Easier to learn and not as many quirks as other languages of the same era.

                    Anyway, you couldn't really do any serious applications with gwbasic. It was followed by qbasic a little later. And then Visual Basic. And then Visual Basic .NET which was very different. The reason Microsoft put a lot of effort on BASIC was because Bill Gates loved the language and thought it was great.

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                    • scottalanmillerS
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                      @Pete-S said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                      Anyway, you couldn't really do any serious applications with gwbasic. It was followed by qbasic a little later.

                      I was in time to get to do both. Still have the original GWBASIC manuals!

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                        scottalanmiller @1337
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                        @Pete-S said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                        And then Visual Basic. And then Visual Basic .NET which was very different.

                        Oh yes, we forgot to talk about this. VB and VB.NET was a huge language leap. VB was way closer to QBasic than it was it VB.NET. VB wasn't object oriented at all. That wasn't added as an option till VB.NET. Even VB6 didn't have it. It was very much old school BASIC.

                        VB.NET was the first leap forward. Still BASIC, but with incredible architectural changes and advances.

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                        • jmooreJ
                          jmoore @scottalanmiller
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                          @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                          Oh yes, we forgot to talk about this

                          You forgot to make your outline good sir 😁

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                            1337 @scottalanmiller
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                            @scottalanmiller said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                            @Pete-S said in Why Visual Basic Is the Worst Programming Language for Your Project SAMIT Video:

                            Anyway, you couldn't really do any serious applications with gwbasic. It was followed by qbasic a little later.

                            I was in time to get to do both. Still have the original GWBASIC manuals!

                            I just did a little with both. But this was around the same time that Borland released Turbo Pascal and at least in my view it became the serious language to make PC applications with in that era. It was almost instant compilation and it had a very good IDE.

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